Those of you who favor banning firearms....?

Question

...what about those of us who hunt for food? Are you going to *force* us to eat that Frankenfood crap that passes for beef in our stores?

If *you* want to eat meat that's packed full of antibiotics and hormones, that's entirely up to you. But what gives you the right to tell the rest of us that we have to? Not like you can take down a moose with a knife, and a bow and arrow really have a lot of the same potential "problems" as a firearm.

No flaming, please - this is a legitimate question.

Actually, liltrix, no, we don't. You are making a gross assumption about a situation you are obviously unfamiliar with. I live in the 2nd largest city in Alaska, and we do *not* have access to organic beef, etc. You are once again assuming that rural life has all the amenities of a city life - that is not the case. We already pay a FORTUNE for groceries - organic bananas are 99 cents a lb - are *you* offering to pay for organic beef? Didn't think so.

Go, Cookie!! Excellent answer!

LOL liltrix - believe me, I've looked into having organic beef, etc shipped up here. NOT worth it. We raised our own pig last year, and will do so again this year. We're also going to raise our own chickens, too. I draw the line at cows.

There are also a lot of people in our villages here, not on the road system. They already pay well over $7 for a gallon of milk - do you seriously want to force them to pay for organic beef?!?

I don't presume to know anything about life in a city - don't presume you know anything about life in Alaska. We are completely different than the lower 48. Hell, we have villages that still use honey buckets. (Hint: there ain't nothing good in those buckets.)

Answer 1

All right Arcticchic, this REALLY HITS HOME for me, I am a lifelong hunter, I hunt all animals INCLUDING bear with any weapon LEGALLY allowed to do so, THAT includes HANDGUNS, Shotgun, bow, Muzzleloader, and rifle I WOULD use a crossbow if it was leagal for a NON-Handicapped person to do so). The wacko's out there don't understand the leglity part about semi-auto's and automatic fire weapons, handguns and shotguns. Having a Class Three Federal Fireams License Grant me the opportunity to purchase any weapon on the planet, INCLUDING explosives, BUT I cannot turn around and sell said weapons to the general public. The only people I can sell them to are Class THREE FFL holders. AND, those individuals still NEED to fill out the proper paper work, which I call into the FBI NICS hotline. The FBI/ATF is the governing body that determines IF the purchaser is ALLOWED to buy the said weapon ( I am able to turn ANY person that I deem is inappropriate away without the sale)(Which does not include Automatic weapons, or explosives, for the general population) And yes this even INCLUDES our service members who are dying every day to PROTECT our freedoms. As a class Three FFL holder I am entitled to Gunsmithing practices, HOWEVER I am NOT allowed to make any Semi-Auto weapon Fully automatic, EVEN MY OWN. I do agree there is no reason to own a fully automatic weapon AS a CIVILIAN, (however as being an Ex-Serviceman I see where they are wonderful in battle) Are you people beginning to see, that there are perfect law abiding citizens out there??? And as a Concealed carry lic owner, I go nowhere without a handgun on my person. Now take for instance, Tx, They have the LOWEST rate of Violent crimes in the Union. Why you ask. Because 78% of the population is armed at ALL times.

Answer 2

You could not be more correct. What few people realize is humans were pretty mean to each other long before there were firearms.

When the Colt revolver first appeared in the wild west the general public called it the "equalizer". The reason was that since all that was available before was a single shot, slow to reload black powder pistol. If a few guys caught one or two men out on the trail they could rob or kill them with little threat from the victims. However, once the victims could be armed with a pistol that could shoot six times before reloading, well, it made a lot of highwaymen think twice.

The term equalizer is appropriate here. Once everyone was equally able to cancel everyone else's ticket things began to quiet down. What we saw in West Virginia was the old unequal scenario again. Only one held the power of life and death in his hands. That was the outlaw. Not the situation you ever want to see. Yet it is a situation gun laws guarantee.

Answer 3

While I agree with the hunting argument, it's not why we have the second amendment. It gives the American citizen the right to defend himself with a firearm. Without it, we would still be a bunch of colonists. Take it away, and you are trusting that our government will always be able to do our fighting for us. History doesn't prove that to be a common occurrence. People may say the amendment was 230 years ago and much has changed. So how do they know how much will have not changed 230 years from now?

Answer 4

There's a difference between hunting guns and assault/"personal defense" guns. I'm guessing that you don't go out hunting for food with a handgun or something like that, now do you?

I actually support people who hunt for food, it makes a lot of sense. But at the same time, owning a firearm is a responsibility and maybe we need to think about who really is responsible enough to own them. Also, perhaps the sale and possession of firearms should be slightly more monitored than that of other products. Not syaing that every person who owns a gun is going to snap and kill a bunch of people, but once you have in yoru hands something that could very easily take a person's life, well, that can't be taken lightly.

Answer 5

Don't let those opposed to firearms ownership fool you. They will try to come up with reasons to ban firearms, but perhaps letting a few keep theirs just to hunt, etc. Until they can take those away too. The constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Answer 6

Sorry dear but they make free range organic beef, chicken and pork these days. No use of antibiotics or hormones and they are fed organic grains and grass. Sorry, your argument doesn't hold water on that argument. And, as far as the bow and arrow, that would be much more fair hunting practice for the animal. Especially for those who still believe the tired old cliche that hunting is a sport. Which we all know it isn't. When someone can sit in a lodge, drink down a 12 pack of beer and wait for a deer to pass by on a well worn deer path, it's not a sport. It's not even real hunting. Whereas with a cross bow it does take a certain amount of skill to bag the 8 or 12 point buck.
Guns aren't necessary. Hunt with a crossbow. It's quieter. you shoot off a rifle in the woods and it scares every other living creature out of the woods as well. It's time that Americans learned a little finesse and meaning in the term hunting.

In reality, a ban will never happen. I think making guns much more difficult to obtain would be a better solution. We should use Japan as our model for laws to obtain a gun. I don't think this guy at VT would have ever committed the crime he did if those laws were in place in Virginia. Virginia has one of the most relaxed gun laws in the country. Almost to the point where they hardly exist at all.

Frank... Europe is oppressed. Sorry to burst your bubble. You ever been there? I doubt it. You'd know better than making this statement if you had been there before.

EDIT: Then a cross bow would do you just fine then in Alaska. bananas are 99 cents a pound? That's about what it is where I live too. And, there are places on line that you can send for beef from organic farmers that will ship it too you. Google it. Alaska is expensive I know. And, as far as the rest of my post, I do know because I grew up on a farm in a very rural part of the mid west where alot of people hunted. So please spare me the self righteous lecture on living in the country. Also, there is a huge difference between 9mm pistols and semi automatic weapons like this and automatic weapons in this country and those you hunt with. We don't need assault weapons which ARE still being sold. There is no other reason that the glocks are bought than to assault. There are way too many guns out there like this, legally and illegally. To just let people get guns without any wait or any psychological testing and without thourough background checks and training to use after all that, is way too leniant. We need laws like Japan. It shouldn't be easy to get a gun. The second amendment applies to having a well formed militia. We have that already, the military, the sherriff, the National Guard, and the local police.

Answer 7

Anti-firearms people are simply misguided and misinformed about the nature of firearms. If they do the research, they will realize that only 6% of the poulation are repeat offenders, and only a small number of them are violent offenders... If everyone were armed, the majority of the population would be constituted of armed, law abiding citizens. The minority who would use firearms to gain power over the rest of the poulation would have then just lost their 'edge'.

P.S.: I think I've said this, in so many different ways, about 5 times on Answers in the past 2-3 days. People just don't get the fact that I happen to know what I'm talking about and, as far as I've seen, am the ONLY one to produce actual statistical data to back my point. (That 6% I mentioned is an ACTUAL figure, based on a correlation of UCR and other official crime report data)

Answer 8

You forgot the gun manage Neo-Socialists different idols-Joesph Stalin and Mao. They are proud, considering if they are able to ban weapons, they are able to take the further step to crub freedom of speech. After that is performed, they are able to unfold their hate stuffed professional-gay, anti-American, professional-IslamoFascism, anti-Christianity schedule.

Answer 9

I don't want them banned - I own firearms. I've hunted big game and upland birds since I was 12.

I just don't see why they can't or shouldn't be registered. Having registered firearms help law enforcement arrest people using them to harm others. I also don't see why anyone besides the military or PD require assault weapons.

BTW, I eat only organic meat - I agree with you on the steroid-infested crap in most stores today.

Answer 10

You dont know what you are talking about. It is Gun Control not Gun Confiscate, The simple point is automatic weapons and high round 9mm semi-auto weapons are not used for hunting. There should be a control on these weapons. It would be a long process but one that would pay off. You do not need 15 rounds to protect yourself.