I partially blame liberal colleges for this dont you?

Question

the no armed guard rule is redicules. An armed teacher could have stopped this freak in his tracks.

to the poster who said get rid of our guns and we'll be safer???? So, we let the criminals take over AND THY WOULD!!!! anyone can get a gun through the black market......

besides.....muslim suicide bombers don't even use guns in europe.

Answer 1

I'm a teacher, and I would be TERRIFIED to see some of the people I work with carrying a concealed weapon! Could you possibly imagine mean ol' Miss Crabapple carrying a concealed 9mm? Could you imagine her using it?

What about Mr. Dumbface who can barely keep his own wits about him with a handful of preteens? How would he react with a gun? Could he even keep tabs on it, or would the kid who's way smarter than him snatch it when he's not looking?

That's how it would be at many schools. What about those teachers who have been arrested for slapping a student around or molesting someone? Should they have guns too? Or should we only take the guns away from those teachers AFTER they've been arrested?

This isn't to say that some teachers wouldn't handle it with poise and caution, but just think about the chaos in your high school if your most hated teacher was packing.

We have an armed police officer on campus and he's the only person allowed to carry a gun on school grounds, and that's fine with me. More guns is not the answer. More cops, maybe, but not more guns.

Answer 2

No. You can't put an armed guard in EVERY building on a 150 building campus. And even if you COULD, if a building is 4 stories tall- & the shooter has locked himself in a room full of kids on the 4th floor while the guard is down on the 1st floor- how's the guard going to get there in time- to keep the guy from killing half the class??? More guns = more deaths. Start arming the teachers- & the teachers will be the FIRST ones to get shot... :(

Answer 3

Get rid of all your guns and then you'll all be safer.

I say this because, I live in England. We don't have much guncrime here and that is because it's not that easy to obtain guns and licenses here. so the only option for the criminal is to get one on the black market. I'm not saying we have the perfect solution here but violence breeds violence and we do not believe that it would be safer for any of us if everyone would be able to have a gun. It would make you feel more secure but consider this. You might make yourself a target just for carrying one. Over here only special police are carrying guns here, normal police patrols don't. We don't hear of many people being shot here, though there are a few incidences in the bigger cities usually related to drugs or gang wars. What happend with Cho and the loss of life he caused was tragic but first I invite you to think about the missed opportunities that led up to this. He was failed by the mental health system and someone should be made accountable for that. As a society we allways seem to look at what can be done after the outcome and not at the root problem. The rootproblem was that the mental health system in your country failed this young man and this is where the changes should be made to prevent further tragedies and not getting more arms into the classroom

And for those who think gun culture can't be changed because America was founded on guns this might be news to you. England had the viking onslaught in the darkages, the romans and saxons too, once upon a time we used to have people drawn and quartered here too, The odd head was chopped off too and hangings were here till the 1960ies and on some of the small isles around Britain the "cat and ninetail" is still not abolished. But does this mean as a society we can't grow up? Do we have to have this idea in our heads that we have always been like that so we can never change? How does that relate to a christian worldview which I know many Americans have? Are we not to become a new creation in Christ? Just a thought!

Answer 4

Yes, I agree. Unarmed campus security guards can only provide a "sense" of security. But even armed police cannot provide virtual security.

President Reagan had the best armed body guards, yet he was shot on March 30, 1981, just 70 days into his presidency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_assassination_attempt

In 2002, at the Appalachian School of Law, Peter Odighizuwa, a disgruntled student, shot and killed Dean Anthony Sutin and professor Dale Rubin. At the first sound of gunfire, fellow students Tracy Bridges and Mikael Gross, unbeknownst to each other, ran to their vehicles to fetch their personally owned firearms The two students were able to subdue and apprehend Odigizuwa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting.

Armed guards would not have helped Richard Speck's victims. On July 14, 1966, Speck broke into a South Chicago townhouse and took as hostages nurses Gloria Davy, Patricia Matusek, Nina Schmale, Pamela Wilkening, Suzanne Farris, Mary Ann Jordan, Merlita Gargullo, and Valentina Pasion. Speck held the girls hostage for hours, methodically beating, raping, and stabbing them to death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck#The_mass_murder

Seek a solution. Don't blame.

Answer 5

I went to a liberal college and believe me the guards are armed

the thing is that it's a college not a jail. the campus police and guards (with the expection of those in dorms) don't stay in one building they drive around and go where they are called.

the problem was that the time it took them to get in the building 32 people where dead

I never heard of teachers wanting to be armed so I don't know if it's a rule or them just not wanting to carry a gun.

Answer 6

I don't think the guards should be carrying lethal weapons. I would definitely give them taser guns though. I don't think it's necessary to give guns to teachers and students. What caused this problem is that no one seemed to notice that Mr. Cho was a threat to society. He had a history of stalking women, and he had been in a mental institution. Yet, there he was in a nice university with guns he had purchased. It's as if people had their eyes closed when they were around him. The university should call the S.W.A.T. team because of something like this. The guards should be there to simply make sure things are running smoothly, but you really need S.W.A.T. to deal with a maniac like that. Let me correct my previous statement. I suppose it would be fine for the guards to carry guns, but I still think they should have taser guns too. They should carry taser guns with them all of the time.

Answer 7

anybody talking about gun control or gun ban in america need to realize that this will never work in the united states. They can point out examples of how it works in other countries, america is different. First of all this country was founded on guns. ITs the 2nd amendment for god sakes. there are just too many gun in this country to be able to successfully get rid of all the guns. Secondly, eve if we were able to get rid of all the guns, its not going to stop the smuggling of guns. The US borders are just too big. Just look at all the illegal immigrants and drugs in this country. We cant stop them from getting into the country how we gonna stop guns from being smuggled into the country. lastly how would better or tighter gun control stop a guy like the VT gunman. I know Virginia is one of the more looser gun control states, but what even with tighter controls, someone like cho still could of gotten a gun, maybe it would of taken him a little longer, and maybe he would of had to jump through a few more hoops, but at the end of the day, what could have been done to make sure he didnt get gun. and even if gun control laws made it impossible for him to get a gun legally, he probably still could of gotten one illegally if he really wanted one.

Answer 8

Where do you come up with the no armed guard bit? Campus police are armed to the teeth. And what makes you think that just because some kid is armed that he's going to know how to even use a gun. The 18-25 age group are the heaviest drinkers in the nation, do you want kids at college football games armed and drunk? I don't.

Answer 9

first off i blame the parents of this guy. if you thought that your child was depressed and suicidal and that screwed up, you should have done something about it. and i also blame the school, they knew that this kid wasn't right in the head, he had been reported to the shrink by his teachers because his writings were so graphic and twisted, there had been several police reports filed against him for stalking girls.
i blame all the people that ignored the many warning signs that something was seriously wrong with him and did nothing about it.
my heart goes out to the families and friends of all the victims, and my prayers are them

Answer 10

You're KIDDING me! Not all college students are responsible adults. Many are experimenting with alcohol, drugs... who knows what else. Kids get into arguments; some get very angry. With your proposed rule, it would only be so long before a kid got drunk and shot someone out of anger. Great idea!