VT murder's - It seems to me the Doc who didn't put the guy in the "system" should be accountable, somehow.

Question

Had he do so, the guy trying to buy the handgun would have put up a red flag the weapon seller would be able to use to, Not sell it and maybe even followed up by Police.

This is "Only" a question. I am not "blaming" any one person persa! I am not "all seeing" or holier/wiser than thou. I question the ethics of the Doc and the System who had the people he/they could talk to "besides" the guy, and didn't bother to follow up.

The guy was sick.

Answer 1

I don't think pointing fingers is going to help anything right now. The way our society runs today is the only explanation to this tragedy and all of those before... Children are raised much differently today due to the need of two incomes, child abuse, greed...the list will go on. Just as the thought of Global warming...this is a taste of what our future will hold. My heart is in much pain now as I witness the news and the heartbreak our children and fellow parents are going through as well as all hearts touched by this tragedy. I wish too that it would be one easy point to the person to blame...but that is just not the case. Cho was a sick kid who needed help and fell through the cracks of what ever system we may currently have. I know you are just as hurt and confused hence why you posted your question but I don't think you will get an answer to make you better understand and cope with this tragedy.

Answer 2

Well, according to waiching liu it's because he was pressured by white people, and she needs to be protected cos she's asian like him. Funny how it's not about 32 people that cho-cho killed for no reason, and the parents that didn't parent him, it's about her. As is typical, opportunist come out of the woodwork to take advantage of the situation and divert the attention away form the real issues. There are many people who are responsible for letting this happen, practically handed the victims to the gunman cos he had no friends. Many many people who were not doing their job, and were too selfish, just like cho-cho, to take an extra minute to check up on someone they are now all saying they knew would be a threat to innocent people. His own parents didn't monitor him, his professors didn't do anything about his crazed scripts, the counselors and psychiatrists didn't monitor his behavior or his medication. They left him to run rampant, and terrorize thousands of people. All those people who were irresponsible and if they hadn't been, 32 innocent people would still be alive. It's not just the Doc, it's everyone who knew him (they are not shy about going in front of television cameras to recollect about strange events and "signs", but they didn't care enough when anything could have been done about it.

Answer 3

First off, there's no mental health check for purchasing a handgun.
Second, the doctor felt that Cho was nothing more than a threat to himself, not to society.
Third, Cho was calculating, as has been seen over and over by his methods so I doubt even you, all-knowing as you are, would have done anything.

Answer 4

The doc is not responsible but we should pass laws that allow doc's to do this anonymously so that this does not happen again but anyone can get all the guns they want anywhere in the world even in countries that have banned them, it's called the black market.

Answer 5

In October 2005, Cho was taken out of his creative writing class at the request of his professor who refused to quit if he was not removed because he was harassing students in the classroom.

In November 2005 a female student made a complaint about harrasment from Cho. She did not want to appear in court and the matter was dropped.

In December 2005 a second female student made a complaint against Cho. The university security talked with Cho and told him that he was to have no more contact with the female student.

After the security left. Andy noticed that Cho was depressed and alerted the security that he believed Cho was suicidal.

University officials said the school had obtained a "temporary detention order" from a local magistrate that allowed them to refer Cho to an off-campus medical facility because they feared he may be suicidal. According to Virginia law, "A magistrate has the authority to issue a detention order upon a finding that a person is mentally ill and in need of hospitalization or treatment.
"The magistrate also must find that the person is an imminent danger to himself or others," says the guideline from Virginia's state court system.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3052278&page=1
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-shooter19apr19,0,2668915.story?coll=la-home-headlines
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3052278

Cho was taken to Carilion St. Albans
Psychiatric Hospital in December 13, 2005.
He was not formally admitted to the hospital. He was evaluated by Roy Crouse a psychologist. Dr. Crouse wrote Cho's "affect is flat and mood is depressed". "He denies suicidal ideation. He does not acknowledge symptoms of a thought disorder," Dr. Crouse wrote. "His insight and judgment are normal."
Cho was released on December 14, 2005.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3052278

If Cho was evaluated only by a psychologist (Ph.D.), he would not have been given medication. Medication is only prescribed by a psychiatrist who is a medical doctor (M.D.)

A person is only kept in a mental hospital against his will if the person doing the evaluation believes that there is imminent danger he will harm himself or others. There was nothing to "put in the system".

On the background check form for purchasing a handgun Cho would have voluntarily answered the question about his mental health...

A person cannot be forced to get counseling or to take medication and medical records are confidential.

Professor Nikki Giovanni described Cho's writing as “ 'intimidating' ... there was something mean about this boy. It was the meanness — I've taught troubled youngsters and crazy people — it was the meanness that bothered me. It was a really mean streak. ”

Giovanni insisted that Cho be removed from her class in 2005 about six weeks after the semester had started in September. Cho had intimidated female students by photographing their legs under the desk and by writing obscene, violent poetry. Giovanni said, “ I was willing to resign before I would continue with him. ”

Giovanni wrote a letter to then-department head Lucinda Roy, who removed Cho. Roy alerted student affairs, the dean's office, and the campus police, but each said there was nothing they could do if Cho had made no overt threats against himself or others. So Roy took Cho on as a kind of personal tutor.

Roy described Cho as "extraordinarily lonely — the loneliest person I have ever met in my life." She said he always wore sunglasses and a cap inside, spoke in a whisper, and took cell phone pictures of her. Deeply concerned, she arranged to work one-on-one with Cho.

Roy pleaded with Cho to go to counseling. Roy said, “ Because he was so depressed, I kept saying, 'Please go to counseling; I will take you to counseling.' ”

But when he refused to go, Roy alerted campus police and other officials about him, but was told they could not do much, as no direct threat was involved. “ I was told [by counselors] that you can’t force anybody to go... so their hands were tied, too.

Answer 6

if you mean the doctor, psychiatrist or councillor at the college, then yes he/she should be partly held liable for not referring cho to a mental ward. or better still they should be fired from their job. it's not right that other people's lives are put at risk because of the incompetency of the person, of whom should know better