Why don't they scrap guns in america?

Question

For god's sakes, events like yesterday, are HORRIBLE, to think some places you can actually have big dangerous murderous criminals walk into a shop and buy a GUN. I'm sorry BUT I would NEVER want to live in any country like that, yes americans have more freedom, freedom to be shot dead at their own university. That's sick - no wander why there's so much crime such as roberies and stuff in that country. Greatest country my ArS.E

Answer 1

Personal security begins with self.

IF we sacrifice freedom for security based on government security we have neither security or freedom

Teaching kids to be heros not victims is the key. Liberals so indoctrinate the victim mentality people see the government as the solution, IT IS NOT. Real people are the solution.
We need kids with backbones. not spineless jelly fish.

That said we need to teach communication skills on how to truly connect and engage people without threatening them.

I believe in a simple technique to teach my kids. You see someone at the grocery store, pharmacy, restaurant, barbershop and notice their name tag. each time you see them say hello "Bob". for each action people feel less isolated.

Try it and see if it works. I know many people by name and the names of a few of their kids because I take the time (something many fail to use correctly these days) to get to know ONE damned person.
Self, look at yourself. Who are you? Why are you here? What is your significance other then being worm food in 10-80 years?
Some of the thought's I have after something like this.

We have strong gun laws, and people with intent will find a way to perpetrate. Guns are tools as are fire, knives, pitchforks, ammonium nitrate, jet fuel, gasoline, the problem is NOT the object. The problem is the perpetrator.

I believe many people have become willing to usurp their personal liberty for security they will clamor for a police state before long.

I believe that tragedies such as this ought to give us a reason to pause and look at the causes as to why angry people do atrocious and horrific acts.

I believe the media is culpable. I believe that parents are culpable, I believe liberals are culpable, I believe by removing any semblance of conflict from schools we not given kids healthy outlets for conflict and aggression.
When I was a kid, I carried my 22 rifle and 20 gauge shotgun in the truck of my car so I could go hunting after school, I never once thought when I was getting picked on by a bully to go get the gun and kill him.. I thought differently because I respected myself and those around me. If it came to blows with the bully it would be with fists in the parking lot. a bloody nose generally stopped it.

Guns are not the problem. Ignorance of anything is dangerous and society has become ignorant of firearms. Both of my children have certified in hunter safety and firearm training. They not only know HOW to use firearms but HOW NOT to use them. This is the problem with schools today, we no longer accept firearms as a norm so they've become
abnormal AND people clamor for control. This is wrong.

Take your over the pond attitude and put it up your "****".

Answer 2

Don't act like murder by being shot only happens in America, It happens everywhere around the world, and still will, no matter what "you and anyone else" thinks, its a large source of income, and it defends, if all gun (In America), were gone, war would start, billions would die. It's not like other countries are going to just hand over their weapons. Yes, how some people use their guns are a bad thing, and many lives were taken, I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it could be far worse. Many people die each day from being shot, as well as other things, even if you took all guns away, that wont stop murder, suicide, or war. It will just provoke other means of killing people in more harsh and brutal ways. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be shot, then be strangled to death by A rope. Guns are and will always be a problem and a flaw, but sometimes a solution, It is not right to kill someone, but it is also not right to let someone kill another: War will always be about, our world is not perfect, and it will never be, taking away gun, would just cause A riot, and an anarchy, "Thugs", and "Gang Members", will always have guns, there is no defeating it.

Answer 3

Now I don't have an anti-US agenda and am actually very fond of the country but really, how many more of these massacres are going to have to happen before people start thinking that it is the relatively easy access to these weapons that allows these things to happen.
The guns used in yesterday's tragedy were bought legally from a gun shop. He supplied the proper I.D. and passed all the proper checks.

The question still has to be why do you need weapons? What do you think you have to defend yourself from?

The right to bear arms was put in the constitution to ensure that America would always be able to defend itself from its previous European rulers.
Not overly sure that logic still applies. Can't see Britain or France staking or being able to back up any claim on those lands now or any time in the foreseeable future.
I've read a response from a gun lobbyist saying that the virginia tech massacre could have been prevented by less gun controls. Yes , that's right more guns would solve the problem. The reasoning was that an armed civilian would have been able to shoot the killer before it escalated.
So, that would mean that students, on campus should be carrying guns to class in case their fellow students turn out to be a psychopath.
A future with that level of paranoia, mistrust and casual attitude to the use of lethal force is one I never hope to see.

Answer 4

The right to bear arms....hmmm. Just don't agree with this. People have the right to defend themselves of course, and there are many ways to do this without resorting to violence, especially the sort that requires a GUN.

The problem is that everything thinks that they are the righteous ones; the salt of the earth; the Christians that do only good, yet we are all marred with some predjudices. Who can truly judge if a person has crossed the line? People have different morals, and different thresholds. Sometimes I'd really like to shoot my neighbours - but obviously that would be wrong and thankgod I can't tighten a few connections and get a gun when they are having 5am raves...

The point is I don't understand how there can be so many people on here that believe that they are so holy that they have the right to judge is someone is 'bad' enough to be shot by their hand. There is a distinction between people like the Police and normal citizens, they have been trained to deal with people in situations with guns.

Oh and yes - England has its fair share of violent crime - the ott drinking culture doesn't help but I'd rather some stupid uni boys have a fight outside a pub and go to lectures the next day hungover than take it out on each other with guns, because obviously, that would be their "right".

Answer 5

I think you've got your answer here! Many people would rather fight the law than give up the right to carry a gun. From a legal point of view, it is granted by their constitution, therefore, a constitutionnal amendment needs to go through the us legislative process (Clinton failed to do so). But remember M.Moore and Colombine??? Canada allows weapons but is not as bad as the us so the problem is probably somewhere else? Having read the many answers above, I feel that it's almost a lost cause and the only answer will come from the american people themselves. Today, I certainly feel no anger against armed people but sadness for all those people who lost a friend, a sibling, a son or a daughter...
It is a sad moment but I feel that more dramas of the kind will occur, until a conservative politician loose a son and decide to move things on...

Answer 6

the USA almost anyone can have a gun, except they are banned in the schools and Universities, now note that you get more shootings where the good guys don't have them as they are banned, that is why 35 people got shot, if all the rest of the good guys had guns then at least one would have shot the bad guy, therefore less people would have been killed.
So the answer is for us all to have guns even here in the UK, and please note I am not a bad guy.
However if you want to stop everyone including the bad guys from carrying guns the only way is to make it a mandatory hanging offence to own, be in possession, or use a gun, and take away all licences, for firearms including shot guns. now I would be in favour of that, But until then I want the right to be able to defend my family and myself on equal terms.

Answer 7

I heard a quote in The West Wing - don't remember it exactly, but it went something like this:

"In 1999 there were 55,000 gun deaths in the united stated. If you take the combined population of great britain, germany, france, switzerland, italy and spain, it is comparable in size to the US. In those countries there were 112. Is it because americans are more homicidal by nature, or the fact that they have gun control laws?"

No matter how you dress it up, gun crime in europe is not anywhere near the same scale as in the US. I know it is getting worse, but jeez, get some perspective.

By the way, if the US wants to call just about anyone and everyone owning a gun a "well regulated militia", as quoted in second amendment to the constitution, then I will personally buy the government a new dictionary. Theirs must have a very different definition of regulated!

Answer 8

If everybody in the University had a gun then they could have shot dead the attacker very quickly before a murder became a massacre. I don't even want to think about how many students would have been killed in accidental shootings and drunken pranks that went wrong if this was to happen. BAN ALL AMERICANS FROM CARRYING GUNS then they may have to use their brains to solve problems rather than who has the biggest or most guns. Just look at the mess they have made in Iraq. America is a third world country with first world technology, a dangerous combination.

Answer 9

University of Chicago economist John Lott studied crime statistics in states that have "relaxed" laws about carrying guns. He found that the crime rates in "right to carry" states went down, sometimes way down, after passing legislation allowing responsible adults to carry guns. Murders fell an average of 8 percent, rapes 5 percent and aggravated assaults 7 percent, while at the same time in the U.S. as a whole murders went up 24 percent, rapes went up 71 percent, and assaults went up more than 100 percent. And in those states, the death rate in mass public shootings -- such as a crazed gunman opening fire in a crowded restaurant -- dropped 69 percent, while deaths from accidental shootings increased by only about one per year. Hardly a gun freak, Lott has never been a member of the National Rifle Association and didn't even own a gun when he started his study. But once he saw how clearly the statistics were turning out, he bought one. (Time) ..."An armed society is a polite society." --Robert A. Heinlein.

It's not politically correct to say, but it's True: what you see in the media is not the whole story when it comes to guns. How can people make up their minds unless they know that laws banning guns could very well cost more lives than they save

Answer 10

Sorry, but "big, dangerous, murderous, criminals" just can't walk into a shop and buy a gun LEGALLY. The problem is guns are too easily obtained on the street.

The same thing happens if you ban guns. All the good guys turn in their guns and the bad guys quietly laugh and know that the next time they rob someone, they'll be less likely to met with force.

There's been problems with shooting in the United Kingdom. Remember the man who went into a school in Scotland and killed a bunch of kids? Yeah, it wasn't his gun. Yeah, he didn't have legal access to it, but tell that to the parents off the kids who died.

Tony Martin, I believe that's his name. He defended his own house with a gun and shot a robber who turned around and sued him and he had to go to jail.

The problem isn't one that's isolated to America; it just happens to be that it struck this country the other day.

Go to countries like Pakistan and discuss gun control and see what you get. You could ban all imports of arms to Pakistan and it wouldn't do any good. It's a cottage industry and whole villages have learned how to reproduce some of the famous makes of arms from around the world.

Answer 11

It's a question of history. Before America had their independence it was illegal to bear arms and the people did not feel protected from the British army who was also able to go into anybody's house whenever they wanted.
When writing up the declaration of independence and the constitution and all of the founding fathers stuff, the right to bear arms was of course on their list of grievances.
i agree that the law to be able to own a potential killing device is terrible. and it really does not make sense. but it's not as if some random joe can go buy a gun. first of all they are not all that cheap, must be of a certain age and everything.
nowadays, it is not as useful to carry a gun as it was in the 1700's but there are a lot of issues behind it and, like somebody so eloquently wrote 'rednecks'. there are always campaigns in the US to strengthen gun control and to make it illegal. but like abortion and sex and other touch subjects, there is always people for and against who fail to come to mutual agreements.

most importantly, it's not as if every single person owns a gun or as if all the uni's get massacres like that all the time. whether guns were legal or illegal, people would still be able to get ahold of them and use them the way that man did in virginia.

it's just terrible that this time we can't blame it on a lack of education...... human beings are to blame.