Why can't we have a stronger and better GUN CONTROL SYSTEM? 2nd time posting this Q!?

Question

Once Again!!!
I'm 99.9% certain that the number of people kill each year by the use of guns CAN BE AVOIDED. So why can't congress abolish all guns to the general public? Don't give me the 2nd admentment crap either...freedom to bare arms (you still have your knives and baseball bat). Also for you hunters out there, you can establish a "rental" system at desinated hunting grounds. "its not the gun that kills people, its the person"....some say. I say BS! 6 months ago - 18 answers -

Note: You are still not guarantee tobe safe from people who uses guns...cause of wackos, and of smugglings of the weapon. but you are guarantee the "limited" access, and amount of guns out there. Freedom to bare arms was a law establish for the citizens in case their government goes insane and kills its own people. Chances are low for that to happen in the US. And no, its not a good feeling the you don't have a gun, and someone out there do...lets hope that someone is a cop, or in the military.

Answer 1

So Consitutionally protected rights are crap now, just because you don't believe in one?

I guess we know where you stand.

Answer 2

If you own a gun it will make criminals think twice before robbing you.

If they know you own a gun they wont think twice about shooting you just in case.

If you own a gun you wont get mugged

If the mugger knows you own a gun, they are not going to just curl up into a ball and vanish, they will become even more violent.

Didnt stop jesse James and all the rest when everyone had guns.

The problem with gun control is they dont go far enough, they need to stop them being manufactured.

People will quote the constitution which is about bearing arms in time of war etc. Its bearing arms not owning arms! But then will be quite happy to break laws when it suits them. They will defend the constitution only when its giving them something they want.

"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once." -- Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003"

So what this is saying is that it is protecting you against being tried for treason. normally in a war, you lose, thats the end of it but should you try to overthrow the government you could be tried for treason and hung. So they include a "right to bear arms", zip to do with you carrying a gun like wild bill.

Answer 3

If just one of those students at Virginia Tech had a gun, this tragedy might have been averted.

One of the first things that Hitler did when he became chancellor of Germany, was to take away all guns from citizens, "for their own safety." We all know how that turned out.
The Second Amendment was written so that citizens could form their own militia to defend themselves from either invaders or a government that no longer represented their interests, i.e. a totalitarian regime.

Additionally, the guns that the Virginia Tech killer had were illegal. They had their serial numbers already filed off to make them difficult to identify ( the FBI has an x-ray process that can still get the numbers). Selling and possession of this type of gun is a felony.
Instead of targeting legal guns, and legal, law abiding gun owners, it would be better to enforce the laws already on the books, and establish mandatory "1 strike" sentences for possession or sale of illegal firearms.
No matter how many sweeps you might make to take guns away from the citizenry, there would always be a criminal underground in possession of firearms. They would rule the streets, and our way of life as we know it would disappear.

Answer 4

Would that "limited access" you speak so highly of be sort of like the limited access to drugs? Look you'll never stop the wackos as you so poignently pointed out. And limiting the freedoms of law-abiding gun-toting citizens, most of whom will never shoot another human being and only use their guns in hunting is a ridiculous conclusion to come to. Because once every few years we have some crazy bastard who thinks its a good time to start shooting up a school does not by any stretch of the imagination mean that all people who own guns or shoot guns are crazy.

Of course I'm sure that because of this knee-jerk society we will probably try something to slow the influx of guns as we've tried with drugs, and it won't work as it hasn't with drugs. This will be just another freedom to fall by the wayside on our way towards fascism or communism, I'm not quite sure which yet. Thanks and have a nice day.

Answer 5

Dr. True, You are truly an idiot. The only thing to be avoided by banning firearms is freedom. A gun has NEVER killed a person in the history of the world. 2nd Amendment crap? What the fu*k are you talking about? The second amendment is the only thing "we the people" have to ensure our freedom! It states " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Notice it said "the right of the PEOPLE". Your rental idea is so retarded I'll not dignify it with a response. You say B.S? Fine, that is the first amendment at work, but don't try to impose your extreme ignorance/stupidity on me. If you don't like freedom, GET OUT!!

Answer 6

FYI! We responsible gun owners should not have to pay the price for irresponsible whackos like the Tech student. My family uses firearms for hunting purposes only. And yes it is comforting to know that I have guns in certain places in case I need to use them for protection. It's either me or the burglar. You people who think that taking all guns away is the answer. There needs to be a ban on all semi-automatic assault guns in this country, plain and simple. And the laws should be made accordingly for those who ignore that law. My husband and his friends thoroughly enjoy themselves on their hunts. I fact my 12 year old just passed her hunters safety class with a 90%. Just because people can get guns on the blackmarket doesn't mean all of america needs to be punished. Guns don't kill, PEOPLE KILL! Someone makes the choice to pull that trigger. And as far as gun rentals? You're really dreaming. There are so many types of guns out there. My husband uses several during a season depending on what he is hunting. Come to my house and see how we do things and then insult me. But don't take this issue and broaden it because not all of us are serial killers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 7

Spelling correction: "bear" arms, not "bare" arms. The first one means "to carry" - the second one is a fashion statement.

So you think you can stop the violence by taking away guns... did you know there are books on how to make your own guns using metal smithing tools? Did you know the genocide in Rwanda was performed primarily with machetes? Did you know that the Columbine killers were going to use pipe bombs?

I've had people that are mentally ill threaten to cut me up and mail me to my relatives, and someone who is about twice my size murdered my grandparents. My wife wants me to be armed to protect her. You are making an extremely complex problem into something simple - and it isn't. A gun gives a decided strategic advantage in a fight - distance - baseball bats and knives don't. If someone is close enough for me to hit them with a baseball bat, they are close enough to take it away from me and use it against me. Gun ownership is a huge responsibility, but to punish those who play by the rules because one idiot doesn't is absurd.

BTW: if you think the US government hasn't on occassion killed its own people you are naive: the Tuskeegee experiment, the CIAs use of LSD on its own operatives without their knowledge, etc.

Answer 8

There are lots of problems with your proposal.

The appeals court for the District of Columbia has ruled that the 2nd amendment does protect your right to own a gun - sorry you think of our constitution as "crap". (link 1)

You state that banning guns will make you safer - please read the stats about violent crime in Europe where gun control is almost universal (link 2)

You mention that guns were established for protection of citizens and then just assume that we will always be safe. You are making a lot of assumption there with my rights and safety. I think I will stick to being able to protect myself and pass on your assurances.

Answer 9

i have a suggestion for you. go try to purchase a gun today, any kind of gun, and you will see for yourself how strictly controlled the gun industry is...

and i dont want to be the one to burst your bubble pal, but, a baseball bat or a knife is no match for a colt .45 or even a peashooter like a .22.

and just so you understand, the founding fathers specifically enumerated the right of the people to keep and bear arms so that a radical, out of control governemnt could be opposed.

yeesh, you have a lot to learn...

Answer 10

"Tyrants mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms."
Aristotle
"When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour."
President George Washington
"A free people ought … to be armed."
President George Washington, January 7, 1790
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance, They are the people's liberty's teeth."
President George Washington
"Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion … in private self-defense."
President John Adams
"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
Samuel Adams
"What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty."
Elbridge Gerry
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?"
Patrick Henry
"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
Patrick Henry
"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
President Thomas Jefferson
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well-regulated militia being the best security to a free country …"
James Madison
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
James Madison
"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
George Mason
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
George Mason
"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. … Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
President John F. Kennedy
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troop."
Noah Webster
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall." - Adolph Hitler
"We are the first modern European nation to achieve complete gun control" - Adolph Hitler
"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once." -- Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003


Those are the reasons why.

Every day on america's highways, hundreds of people die in Automobile accidents, yet we never hear a cry for banning them? Why not/ because the benefits outweigh the risks. Same thing with guns.

Answer 11

that's because you have a very strong lobby in this country which gravely misinterprets the part of the constitution which gives the right to bear arms. while you certainly don't know who is going to freak out and run amok and when, there is no doubt that such outbreaks correlate highly with the fact that guns are pretty much readily available in this country- never mind laws, or the cliche saying that "people shoot people, not guns".