Does that bother you?This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed. Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny.
If you find this disturbing then read on and sign the petition to stop these mad scientists. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org
2007-04-15
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15% of pharmacueticals have ever been tested. If you are going to answer this GET INFORMED, Do some research. Its not just herbs and alt therapies. They are dragging aroma therapists into court already and jailing them for practicing medicine without a lic.
You need to read the Codex carefully, read ALL relivant material on it. Check the facts. The Codex Alementarious is the brain child and headed up by a former Nazi Scientist that worked for Hitler. What did he do for Hitler? He MADE THE GAS THAT KILLED THE JEWS!.. Now he's in charge of big pharma, they are using the codex to kill all other health options. Everything from hearbs to biofeedback to meditaion. Even vitamins are on the list of soon to be outlawed controled substances. One person has already been arrested and jailed for saying vitamin C prevents scurvy. That is a WELL documented FACT. The madness is just beginning. If you are not worried about the codex, you are either stupid of uninformed. READ UP
2007-04-16
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update #1
For those of you who understand this. enlist everyone you can to sigh the petition. Those of you who don't and think the FDA is a benovent orginization? guess again. Millions have died or been crippled for life from pharamciuetical drug reactions over the last few years. Pharma and the FDA call this "acceptable risk" IF your mother dies from an acceptable risk would you find that "ACCEPTABLE"?. You cannot find ONE single instance of a holistic therapy killing anyone. The Codex wants to outlaw natural healing all accross the board because it competes with them as an effective and sought after modality. IN California alone 75% of the peope WANT natural and holistic modalities available. Cali is the 5th largest self sustaining econ in the WORLD! Pharma feels it is loosing money to the competition and they intend to irradicate it completely so they can monopolize the market. Monopolies are ILLEGAL. ASK BILL GATES!
2007-04-16
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If proving the pudding as one of you said WAS really the issue that can be done without wiping out the entire industry from end to end. This is about big pharma profits. Big pharma is NOT the least bit interested in your health. Their bottom line is to the stock holders. We are guenie pigs. pharmacology is synthetic, toxic and dangerous. compare natural healing methods to pharmacuetical healing and do a body count. You will be shocked. Vioxx alone killed 55,000 in just the USA. Vioxx is not an isolated incident. But big pharma uses its trillions to cover all that up. Big pharma needs to be on trial for crimes against humanity. Soon they will be 'untouchable' if we do't act now and stay active against them. Think yoru safe? under the new codex law prayer beads and holy water are healing modalities and therefore are practicing medicine with out a licence! A FELONY! This is no science fiction people, this is science gone MAD
2007-04-16
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one moron was more worried about a spelling error than the facts or even reading them for themselves through the links. This is the type of stupidity the government LOVES! You keep them blinders on sunshine you're speacial. AS for mispelled words. SO I'm dislexic and have other handicaps. Woopty doo idiot! That was the kind of concern that comes from a shallow dim witted person that has no idea they are living in a police state right now and have been for years. You don't like my spelling or typos? GO READ IT FOR YOURSELF. THINK-ACT-QUESTION our governemnt has run amok!
2007-04-16
14:35:42 ·
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thanks for the link.. if you follow homeopathic medicine... then you might realize that this was proposed over a year ago & yes it is a huge threat... even to the fundamental level of Freedom of Choice --- the person who said they produce supplements is referring to something other than H.R. 2510
Not only are powerful, large corporate forces behind this (the monopoly and tyranny you mention) so is the insane leadership that this country is currently under.. but it is an even larger issue than this
pulled from Dr Rath's World Health Website: To protect their trillion-dollar markets of largely ineffective drugs, pharmaceutical companies are trying to fight off their fiercest competition: effective, safe, and affordable essential nutrients. The pharmaceutical lobby abuses the UN’s Codex Alimentarius Commission, the EU Parliament and many other national and international political bodies.
I am so glad you brought this up as it needs to be brought to folks attention more often to educate a larger audience and remind those who hold this choice as a valuable choice to continue to have.. and it is an on-going battle because the legislation & what gets proposed keeps changing and also keeps getting thrown on the table.
For the person who said it is a choice to take a perscription medication.. this is true.... but I also want the CHOICE of taking either a perscription or a holistic alternative.
For example... there is not a single antibiotic made by a pharmacautical company that I am not allergic to... so I use Colloidal Silver... and what am I going to do if I get bacterial bronchitis & this isn't available to me? Die from the infection.....
++++ Okay.... Look.. I normally prefer to challenge uninformed thinking and give a vehicle to allow an uninformed person how to become an informed person and then (and only then) make a choice that not only will affect them but also affect other persons.........
However, looking at all of these answers it seems that only a couple of people really understand what is involved here....
The person who said they make suplements & simply had to prove that their claims were true...... well have they read the latest proposed legislation?? Apparently not..... how do I determine this... well, if they have read H.R. 2510, then they would be in fear of being put out of business because they would be determined to be ILLEGAL unless they managed to get thier supplement approved as A PERSCRIPTION DRUG TO BE ONLY ADMINISTERED UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A PHYSICIAN...
Do I need my Dr to tell me to take Vitamin "E" or to add Cherries to my diet? NO... but please think about this... how do you suppose I found out about colloidal silver... well, given that I am allergic to 100% of the known pharmaceutical company antibiotics and I have asthma as well as Multiple Sclerosis.... when I caught a bronchil virus that then married with a sinus infection to become bacterial pneumonia.... this was the only thing they could do... otherwise I would (1) die from the infection or from lack of oxygen due to the triggered asthma attack, or (2) die from the angio-adema reaction to the antibiotics that I am allergice to......
Okay.. so then you argue... see it easy to get your Dr to administer & monitor... do you honestly think most Doctors are trained in that type of medicine... the answer is NO....in fact, In the above mentioned pneumonia (was in 2000) I was hospitalized for 3 months before someone could figure out what to do... other things had been tried to boost my immune system like Golden Seal & Euchinacea, Xylitol (made from Birch Trees) which completely got rid of the sinus infection, but not the bronchial or lung part of the infection.... and finaly a doctor that was VISTING FROM PAKASTAN was asked his opinion.... you see in some of these counties the majority of folks can't afford perscription medicines... so they have had to keep the "original medicinal knowledge" intact in order to treat the majority of people as inexpensivly as possible
Not only am I allergic to antibiotics, I have MS & I also allergic to muscle relaxers, anti-inflamatories & pain medicines..... Thank goodness the Dr from Pakastan knew about Cherries and shared this with me in 2000 (many years before that became popular knowledge in the US)
Now... for the person who says no conspiracy.. are you familiar with MFJ regulations & how they came about & how LECs came in & how you don't realize it but with the ATT purchase of BellSouth, the MFJ regulations that were put in place to protect the people (not the big greedy company) are suddenly just disappearing............. check on it.... this is 100% accurate.... that was and is a conspiracy that has lasted longer than the course of my life thus far.......... "Big Pharm" is now just like the old & the new ATT in that they want all the control, all the money & all the say-so... Big Pharm is the bully on the block.......... and why do you think drug companies spend over 20,000 per year per perscribing physician to get the physician to perscribe thier drug???? How much of what you or your insurance company pays fro your pescription meds is to keep fueling the fire (paying sales reps, incentives for doctors, advertsing, etc..)
How much will you have to pay for your Vitamin C that you take when you have been exposed to a cold after Big Pharm gets thier way... one way or the other
In all things we do, we have to consider the larger pictures... others that might be affected... the long-term costs..... all decisions must be made based on what if the worst case scenario comes from this???
Please, please, please research it... find out..... keep freedom of choice, if not for yourself, for the good of people (what if your kid was allergic to everything like me? what would you decide to do then?)
2007-04-15 16:55:49
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answered by Bama 5
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Thanks for posting! I posed the same question in hopes of helping spread the word about this horrific proposed plan- Docket No. 2006D-0480, Draft Guidance for Industry on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration.
It is so vital that the public understands that this will mean the FDA’s power over the Natural/Alternative industry will increase drastically- NOT a good thing! Comments and other actions are only effective until April 30. Then the FDA isn’t required to listen to the public and our chance to affect the outcome of the proposal is lost. So please, ACT NOW! and be heard. Visit these sites for more information:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4803.cfm
http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=7018
Here are some other ways to help stop this ill-guided law:
1. Submit comments online. Be sure you include the Docket No 2006D-0480 with your comments.
2. You can also send comments via snail mail to:
Dockets Management Branch (HFA-305)
5630 Fishers Lane, Rm. 1061
Rockville, MD 20852
3. You can call and chat up the following people and let them know what you think:
Sheryl Lard-Whiteford at 301-827-0379
Daniel Nguyen at 301-827-8971
Ted Stevens at 301-594-1184
Wayne Amchin at 301-827-6739
4. In addition to the above comment submissions, write or call your representatives and senators! You can find the contact information for your representatives in the House and Senate here: http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
2007-04-15 18:05:36
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answered by greenthoughts 2
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Does acupuncture still come under the heading of alternative medicine? If so, yes, I would put some faith in it and I am considering trying it for a particular ailment (haven't yet). I've read and heard a lot of positive results from it. Other than that, I'm not sure. I'm a firm believer in "mind over matter", and I do believe in the power of placebos. But right now, the only thing I need medication for is high blood pressure and I am afraid to take any chance with that as far as not following my physician's advice and taking the meds he prescribes.
2016-04-01 03:39:05
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yeah its a simple shame when peoples health will have to succomb to the drug company that makes the most money or shows the most tv ads or pays off the most doctors..
did you know that numerous doctors have confessed prescribing a med when THEY KNEW A XANGO SUPPLEMENT WAS SAFER (NATURAL BY THE WAY) BUT DIDN'T BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE THE DRUG COMPANIES HAD ON THEIR PRACTICE AND HEALTH PLAN...
I encourage people to KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DRUG INDUSTRY... GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE http://www.mangosteenexperiences.com/index.htm and scroll half way down to view some deadly facts the drug companies DONT want you to know.
(for instance, 288 people a day die due to drug interactions when correctly taken medication that was correctly prescribed. COME ON... IF AN AIRLINER CRASHED WITH ONLY 100 PEOPLE EVERYDAY, PANIC WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS, NTSB WOULD SET CONGRESSIONAL SAFETY COMMITTEES... ETC.
SOMETHING WOULD BE DONE!!!!
but no, this is the FDA and the drug industry so its OK.
and now the supplement i use has helped so many people, especially with cancer inflammation, stroke, (and if anyone from the fda is reading this .... THESE ARE NOT CLAIMS, I AM EXCERCISING 1ST AMENDMENT TO PROCLAIM AND SHARE TESTIMONIES, AND ALSO DOCUMENT FACTUAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT A MOLECULE CALLED GARCINONE E WHICH IS FOUND IN THE PEEL OF THE MANGOSTEEN FRUIT, WHICH ONLY FULLY AVAILABLE IN 1 BRAND OF THE JUICE, HAD BEEN TESTED AGAINST THE TOP 6 CHEMO DRUGS USED TO DAY AND ......
OUT PERFORMED 5 OF THEM WITHOUT THE DEADLY SIDE EFFECTS. THIS IS INFORMAITON THE DRUG COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO KEEP SECRET FROM YOU AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY I AM WRITING THIS.
A PRODUCT OF NATURE MADE BY GOD SAVED MY GIRLFRIENDS LIFE, BUT MANY PEOPLE TELL ME TO SHUT UP WHEN I SAY THIS BECAUSE THE DRUG COMPANIES HAVE BRAINWASHED AND CONDITIONED PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET RELIEF IS TO POP A PILL... BUT PILL A CAUSES SIDE EFFECTS THAT ONLY PILL B CAN ALLEVIATE. BUT YOU CANT TAKE PILL B WITHOUT PILL C..... BUT THAT CAUSES A SIDE EFFECT THAT ONLY PILL D CAN ALLEVEIATE.... (if you want to see a funny but true short cartoon on this subject, go to http://www.mangosteenexperiences.com/index.htm and click on the movie THE DRUGS I NEED.)
BEFORE YOU KNOW IT WE ARE TAKING MULTIPLE MEDS FOR 1 CONDITION...... CANT SAY THERE IS NO MONEY THERE, IF PEOPLE USED NATURAL SUPPLEMENTS, ALL THAT REVENUE WOULD BE GONE.
KNOW WHY THE DRUGS COST SO MUCH, A PORTION IS AUTOMATICALLY PUT AWAY FOR LAWSUITS THAT CAN ARRIVE DUE TO THE PRODUCT... THEY ACTUALLY PLAN FOR THIS!!!!!
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2007-04-15 18:13:01
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J.W.H. I read your post and while I agree with your interpretations of their intention, I want to offer some food for thought on where I don't like the direction.
Perscription drug research and clinical trials have backing and monetary support....they also charge and arm and a leg to combat the cost of research/trials ....for alternative medicine to validate their claims on functionality of a product there is no monetary equivalence to fund trials, we also would not pay $400 for a monthly supply of vitamin E for example ....etc.
So my concern is that it ready in fact does mean taking a limb from alternative medicine as we know it. Right now alternative medicine's best research ability is us that are willing to research, take supplements (etc), and report feedback contributing to the research. I don't know without government and big industry aid, that we can adhere to the requirements the FDA will set forth.
If you (or anyone) has further information on how this issue will be handled I would love to be kept informed.
D.
2007-04-16 03:36:42
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answered by momto2kiddos 2
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I think you must work in the alternative medicine INDUSTRY. You guys should be working harder to clean up your acts and police yourselves so the government doesn't have to.
I have used several herbal products, and have been blessed to live in an area where I can find useful herbs, too. People who make herbal supplements and mislabel them, or put stuff in them that doesn't belong are doing something CRIMINAL -- or at least it should be. They give all things herbal a bad name.
The government will never be able to control all aspects of herbalism -- unless they are willing to take agent orange and wipe out the entire landscape. There will always be dandelions, and chamomile and wild raspberries to help us through our ills.
To tell you the truth, I am very leery about trusting any herbal products I can buy off the shelf. There's no telling how old they are, or even if they actually have what they *say* they have in it.
If people want to try alternative medicine, I suggest they read, educate themselves, then try growing it themselves.
Baa, to you, Mr. Penumbra. You really are a shadowy creature, if we're going to trade insults.
2007-04-17 16:55:39
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answered by Madame M 7
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You sir are mis-informed.. the FDA is not getting ready to destroy alternative medicine.. what they are about to do is require the alternative medicine mfgs.. to prove their claim.. there is so much trash being sold in this country, in the name of good medicine, that it has gotten out of hand.. All the FDA is doing is protecting you and all of us from being ripped off by some outfit making claims that are not true.. They say prove it or remove it.. they will still be able to sell the product.. but they will have to stop the BS..I manufacture a product that is sold in drug stores in four states.. it is a great product.. the FDA came to our office and said hey if you are going to make this claim.. show us the scientific proof or quit claiming it.. it was tough but it is something that needed to be done.. we now follow the fda regulations and will soon be an approved lab... oh and our product? what we claim.. we can back it up.. I say thanks FDA.. you are doing a great job of protecting the American public.. And, I will tell whomever wants to listen.. The FDA is great!
2007-04-15 16:49:39
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answered by J. W. H 5
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Thanks for the link! Since the FDA approves any bonehead RX despite the dangers I'd rather have choices thank you very much. Look at all the "new wonder drugs" recently that have suddenly been recalled or given new dire warnings when people died, went blind or had heart attacks because of these "safe" drugs.
2007-04-15 19:37:01
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answered by MissWong 7
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There's no sinister plot. No one holds a gun to anyone's head to make him/her take rx drugs. People are responsible for their own actions: watching the commercials for Nexium, Lipitor, whatever, and then rushing off to their doc and asking for it. No plot there, baby, just stupid, lemming-like behavior.
Next time you're offered a prescription ask: do I need this? what will happen if I don't take it? Many times you'll find that the med isn't really needed after all. It's up to each of us to take care of our own health.
Natural supplements are no magic bullet either: mostly sugar and starch and hogwash, and rob you of your $ and your health just the same as rx drugs. Wise up, eat well, exercise, and do your best to stay healthy. Then you won't need rx meds OR bogus supplements.
2007-04-15 16:36:10
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answered by meatpiemum 4
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Thanx. I signed the petition.
I strongly believe in alternative therapies.
2007-04-15 16:33:14
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