Is it possible that there is no "rock bottom?"?

Question

In the end, i think that's what i'm looking for. I know i've given up on suicide, but becoming aware that perhaps there is no rock bottom for me.

To note; no history of drug or alcohol addiction. Maybe cause i have no concept of happiness, or joy, things i like, goals or dreams i'm just drifting on this self fufilled thing til something happens. Explored faith and it's just not for me, as with meds, friends, family, and relationships ... if nothing else, i have burned those bridges good.

So what is rock bottom. thought it would be in jail or in the hospital, or lying nearly dead from an attempt .. but it wasn't .. i keep feeling i can go more. tried therapists, shrinks .. but i guess they deal with those with attachments to people and world or of a faith . I guess for me that all seems so fake.

Don't worry, not expecting much hear, has learned from last 3 therapists that perhaps answers aren't there for those on the outside of the society or of a culture.

Answer 1

Your question was very troublesome to me. I hope I can say something here to make a difference.

Everyone's "rock bottom" is a different degree of desruction. For some, it is jail. For some, it comes to death. It sounds to me like you have experiences pretty much everything you would consider to have been your "rock bottom".

However, I notice that you didn't mention any family or friends. Since I don't know your entire situation, I can only offer this:

Perhaps the "rock bottom" for you will be the day you see the hurt and pain in the face of your family and friends and realize that they love you more than anything.

Answer 2

Try to examine what you really have to be UNhappy about rather than what you have to be happy about.
A real examination of that can prove telling. Can you have no concept of happiness or joy if you DO have a concept of unhappiness and despair? I don't think so.
You sound as if finding a 'rock bottom' or commiting suicide would be some sort of accomplishment: "I keep feeling I can go more"
I am not trying to 'diagnose' you and I am only going on what I know as a human being- but it seems you are on a treadmill that you just don't have the tools, circumstances or support to get off. And punishing yourself maybe? You mentioned 'this self fulfilled thing' ....You mention burned bridges. Punishing yourself is not gonna unburn them. (And you'd be surprised to fond out how many are really not burnt at all. And if they are, so what? A burned bridge in the context of a relationship is a 2 way street and sometimes is for the better in unhealthy exchanges)
I sense a lot of crippling fear here much more than I sense despair. You don't not care. You care a LOT! Try to start to get to know yourself without judging yourself. Writing your question here is a good example of that. By asking , you are really asking yourself. That where the 'answers' ALL ultimately come from.
As far as therapists, keep trying. I think the odds of finding one good for you (anyone,l mean) are poor. But searching for the right one could prove to be very beneficial in the long term.
I wish you all good things- and most of all I wish you to wish that for yourself.

Answer 3

I don't believe there is such a thing as "rock bottom". Things can always get worse.

I think the phrase/belief in "rock bottom" implies that people don't have a hand in the events of their life. It implies we are subject to circumstance. Things just happen to us and nothing will improve until the absolute worse that can happen does.

I think that's bull. We can choose to be active participants in our life. We control our outlook and emotions and we control our actions, not some unknown entity. The only reason people turn their life around after "hitting rock bottom" is because they CHOOSE to do so. It has nothing to do with the specific incident but with the decisions that follow it.

For these reasons, I think you're right that there is no "rock bottom". But there are decisions to be made and those decisions are completely in your hands.

Answer 4

A partial list of "rock bottom"

Death row, life in prison without possible parole, homeless, without food, without shelter, living in some third world nation, being beaten and tortured as political prisoner, dying without hope of recovery, dead...

I don't think any of those include you since you seem to have access to a computer. There are people in the above situations, and worse.

Maybe you should take a good long look at what you DO have, and stop crying about what you don't have.

Answer 5

I think you're right. There is no rock bottom. Especially when you thought you've hit it already but then you realize that you keep falling/sliding/sinking down day after day. Pessimists say: it doesn't get any worse, because it is not possible. Optimists say: of course it can get worse! Yay for true optimists. LOL. I'm sad now, therefore my jokes are dark.

You only get to find out what *was* the bottom when you get to the top again.

Answer 6

You probably haven't found the answers you're looking for because you want life to go your way all the time. You want to control everything. Friends, family, and relationships are all about give and take. You must sacrifice your pride and many things that you want in order to be successful and be really fulfilled by these things. Of course, even if you do have healthy relationships with friends and family, I have found that it means nothing without a healthy personal relationship with Jesus Christ. He demands that we sacrifice all of our goals, hopes, ambitions, dreams, time, money, etc. to follow Him. Let God be Lord of all in your life. This dying to selfish things is not a fun process but I've found it to be worth it here on Earth, as well as it will be worth it in heaven. God will fulfill your deepest desires, eventually, if you will be faithful to Him. It takes time and while you're waiting, God is building your character. Moses was in the desert for forty years before God really used Him. Noah waited six hundred for the flood to come. If you want to see how this life will go, without Him, just read the book of Ecclesiastes. I think your experience will tell you that Ecclesiastes is accurate, although some of it is hard to understand. Most of it is pretty straight forward. Solomon, who wrote it, was in a position similar to yours at present, emotionally speaking. He was rich and had seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines. He was king of a prosperous nation, Israel, and got everything he wanted. There was even peace in Israel while he ruled. Just read it for yourself. "Wild at Heart" is a good book too. It's written by John Eldredge.

Answer 7

Sounds like you are depressed and feeling hopeless due to life circumstances. Life circumstances can change...sometimes it takes awhile....seems like you feel on the bottom and then something good happens to cheer you up. I will pray for that for you.

Answer 8

Death--if that's what you're seeking.