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Which would mean felis domesticus are all one species and have same genetic code?

2007-04-15 02:11:12 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Science & Mathematics Zoology

Very scientific explanation, obviously
by a student or a degreed scientist.
This is what I wanted and why I did
not ask if a tiger and a lion cannot mate. Sounds like time for more fun and games in the evolution arguments.

2007-04-15 03:11:05 · update #1

Interbreed is what the man said, my
error. As far as saying that different species of wild cats, that's what my question is. It may have happened over hundreds of thousands of years. Cats are in the order Felidae.
Lion is of the species Panthera.
Then there are subspecies of wild or feral cats.

2007-04-15 06:02:33 · update #2

Thanks for indulging me on this topic.
I don't think I need anymore answers.

2007-04-19 01:14:46 · update #3

4 answers

Before I tackle this I would like to know who did research that says feral cats can not breed with house cats. I am curious since I know of many feral cats such as the Maine coon cat that have indeed been redomesticated and re-bred into felis domesticus. I am not aware of populations that can not interbreed, and am suspicous of research to the contrary.

Feral and wild are two different things. Feral is when a domestic animal goes escapes captivity and lives in the wild, thus establishing a 'wild' population. Wild means not having been domesticated yet. In actuallity there are more species in the Genus Felis than three. Many of them are very similar to Felis domesticus. But you are talking about Felis sylvestris domesticus and the various subspecies of Felis sylvestris. The other subspecies are wild and have never been domesticated. What is more they can interbreed with Felis sylvestris domesticus and the other Felis sylvestris subspecies. Some taxonomists (splitters) have began to seperate Felis sylvestris domesticus into its own speciees Felis domesticus.

Now not only can the three subspecies interbreed as virtually all subspecies can but the entire cat family (Felidae) is notorious for being able to interbreed with other closely related species. In some the results are typically infertile like the liger and the leopon (leapard X lion cross), but even in many of those cases the occassional fertile individual is produced. Relatively lately there has been an increase in exotic pets. Among these are other members of the Genus Felis. They are often crossed with the domestic cat to produce a more docile individual. Many of these individuals are quite fertile.

In other words your question is not valid if you are asking it real world. Are you perhaps asking it hypothetically?

Hypothetically, if house cats and feral cats could not interbreed then that would be the start of speciation. The degree of successful interbreeding and the reason for failure would have to be taken into consideration however. For example if size alone were the reason then this would not be a true species since we can alter Felis domesticus's size to suit our needs.

OK after rereading I think I understand your question. Are you asking since they interbreed, are they one species?

If that is what you are asking then the answer is they do not interbreed often enough to lose species integrity. In other words the rate of crosses in nature are low enough between the various cat species that there is very little genetic contamination. Also subspeices remain subspecies because they are located in different areas therefore developing slightly different characteristics.

2007-04-15 03:21:28 · answer #1 · answered by Jeff Sadler 7 · 0 0

Do you mean feral domestic cats inbreeding with wild felines like bobcats and the like? Wild means "never domesticated." Feral means a "once domesticated, now living in the wild"

Without regurgitating someones Wiki term paper on genetics:

The domestics are a narrow genetic type and can cross among themselves, feral or not. The feral domestic cats on the Galapagos and Hawaii have been inbreeding for centuries, causing ecological disaster in their blooming numbers. If brought back as breeding material they could readily mix with any house cat.

Cats of different species, however, don't share genes well.
Crossing with other species only happens with human intervention. They are strictly experimental and to monetarily line the pockets of humans. I don't want to get on that soap box but suffice it, many of these mixes end up in rescues.

Reading your additions, you also need some research into the origin of the domestic cat: http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/bpo_ch0.php
Scroll down the final paragraph on this site, it will answer your question swimmingly. :-)

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2007-04-15 13:27:56 · answer #2 · answered by Icteridae 5 · 1 0

Not necessarily. This is a very very complex topic to address, but I'll try to tackle it as well as possible, but be prepared for a lengthy read.

To begin, you need a bit of background info on genetics, evolution, and the development of new species. First thing to explain is the difference between inbreeding and interbreeding, which is what you meant in your question. Inbreeding refers to incest. Interbreeding refers to the ability - or lack thereof - for one species to breed with another.

The next step is to identify the type of speciation. In this case, it would be parapatric speciation (not to be confused with peripatric speciation), based on the criteria that they are not geographically isolated, their niches are not isolated from each other, however they each do have adjacent niches in the same geographical area.

The reason we needed to know the type of speciation, is to accuately answer the question of why they can't breed together.

In the case of, for example, the famous fruit fly experiment of 1989, and its many reproductions since, one species of fruit fly was separated from another and fed a different type of food. After 8 generations, the each control group had adapted specifically to the kind of food they had been fed, and were no longer able to mate with each other, when they once had the same origin. This would seem like evolution is contradictory to common sense, but let's think about why it would happen:

A fruit fly is a fly that has already evolved to follow a niche, that of fruit. Their body chemistry speciated to allow them to make the most out of the resource that was most in abundance in their environment. When those fruit flies were given only one certain type of food (one was starch, one was maltose), after so many generations of having only to deal with the one, their body chemistries gradually changed to eliminate the genetic "waste" of being able to process a food that - as far as they knew - went extinct.

The gradual adaptation to circumstances eventually causes the speciation to diversify to the point that they are no longer genetically compatible, because their inherent genetic traits become contradictory.

Now, on to your cats: Bearing in mind what was just covered, the domestic cat and the feral cat experience contradictory climates, eating habits and preferences, and temperaments.

In the case of parapatric speciation, the two niches do not experience enough random interaction to propagate a long-term preservation of similar characteristics. Thus, over time, the feral cats become speciated toward harsher climates, scavenging eating habits, more predatory instincts, and a way of life centered around self-preservation. They begin to specialize their genetic code to these situations over time.

Meanwhile, the average housecat speciates into the polar opposite of these traits. Nearly all breeds of housecats are speciated to these same specifications, while nearly all feral cats are speciated to the opposite. In time, they share a common ancestry, and will retain the characteristics of similar breeds, and may be nearly physically identical in some cases. However, the primary difference lies in their genetic predispositions.

In short, it comes down to the genetic degrees of separation from the common ancestry. The more different their environments, no matter how geographically similar, the more profound the speciation.

Not all housecats are from the same breed, but they've speciated along such close lines that they're capable of interbreeding, while they are no longer capable of interbreeding with feral cats. This is not without exception; a second or third generation feral cat may still be able to interbreed with a housecat. What I mean by this, is the grandkittens of a housecat abandoned may be able to still rejoin its prior niche. But a feral cat from a long line of feral cats is a feral cat forevermore.

2007-04-15 09:50:58 · answer #3 · answered by ma_tt_00 2 · 0 2

There is no reason that they can't inbreed.
Of course if you want them for pets you had better stay with home tabby

2007-04-15 09:19:09 · answer #4 · answered by Billy Butthead 7 · 0 1

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