Several conservatives answered a question about US deaths in Iraq with comments about abortion. Are the two related? Does one justify the other?
2007-04-13 08:03:36 · 14 answers · asked by Studbolt Slickrock Deux 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
Are the two related? No, and yes.
Many on both sides will bring up one when the other is being discussed.
The broader issue is when, if ever, the taking of human life is justified.
We pretty much all agree that taking a life in self-defense is acceptable.
Other contexts are the death penalty, abortion, war and others.
In all cases, we weigh the interest in life against other competing interests. (The "personhood," or lack thereof, of an unborn human is just another factual dispute, and another variable.)
People on both sides link the two to question the others' evaluation of the competing interests.
Pro-life and pro-choice, war supporters and war opponents all disagree, strongly.
But they (WE) all apply the same damned test. The balancing test.
We should be honest with ourselves that we all draw lines, whether we realize it or not.
God help us.
2007-04-13 11:13:18 · answer #1 · answered by American citizen and taxpayer 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Abortion is not the ONLY item on the bishops' agenda. You can actually go to the USBBC website and see all the topics they have been discussing this week. If you care. You are correct that Catholicism opposes the death penalty, ANY unjust war (there are other wars going on in the world besides Iraq, in case you didn't know), oppression, economic and social injustices, etc. It has nothing to do with the Republican platform at all. Ask any bishop, and he will freely admit that the Democrats are better on some of these issues, and the Republicas are better on others. However, since legalized abortion has already led to the merciless slaughter of almost 50 million human beings, and neither capitol punishment nor the Iraqi war have come even close to that figure, and when you couple that with Barack Obama's intention to force all taxpayers to pay for abortions and all health care workers to participate in abortions even if they are morally opposed to it and all Catholic institutions to provide abortions and other morally problematic procedures, the issue of abortion is naturally getting a lot of attention from the bishops.
2016-05-19 17:28:40 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well that's as twisted as you can get.
I suppose that if you wish you could make a case that taking a life is a sin from cradle to grave, but it seems they want war, and someone always dies in that too, and they want capital punishment, and someone always dies in that.
I think the whole thrust in the abortion argument is based on the theory of punishing a woman by insisting on compulsory pregnancy. Otherwise they would be out there passing out condoms on every street corner, after all, no conception, no problem, but for many of them its the whole sex thing that makes them nuts.
Its in no way related to 'innocent unborn v the guilty' either since no one has reached the age of enlistment without a few guilty pleasures in his/her background.
The two aren't related, one does not justify the other, but some people can twist anything in any direction to try and make a point.
2007-04-13 08:17:02 · answer #3 · answered by justa 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Abortions and war are completely unrelated. I don't care what either side says or claims. Abortion is a dead issue, unless the highest court in the land thinks different sometime soon. Until then let's focus on more important issues that actually effect people.
2007-04-13 08:42:25 · answer #4 · answered by asmith1022_2006 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
No, and neither is 9/11. People have short-term memory loss. The two are not related!
2007-04-13 08:13:56 · answer #5 · answered by lei 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Good question. I dont really know what to answer. except maybe republicans exist in such a skewered mind set as they can lump everything together as if it is related and base their opinions on such distorted views.
2007-04-13 10:17:57 · answer #6 · answered by Eyota Xin 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes.
The conservatives never would have been dwelling on death had it not been for legal abortions. Without dwelling on death they wouldnt have realized how happy death and destruction secretly makes them.
No abortions no war.
2007-04-13 08:58:38 · answer #7 · answered by Perplexed 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Of course not. The lives lost in Iraq are lives LOST, not lives PREVENTED. But sometimes people like to pull a 'hey, look over there' move, or sometimes they actually think that the way to solve a problem is by adding to it.
2007-04-13 08:30:44 · answer #8 · answered by hichefheidi 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
No. These conservative idiots latched onto Bush's man boobies will say ANYTHING to avoid accountability in this failed war.
2007-04-13 09:26:39 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If the question was about the death toll from Iraq, which I read and responded to, I thought it was appropriate.
But as a general rule, no.
2007-04-13 08:08:56 · answer #10 · answered by Jadis 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋