Oh damn. Looks like studies ARE finding children in childcare ARE growing up maladjusted...
NURSERIES 'TURNING OUR CHILDREN INTO YOBS'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=446564&in_page_id=1770
"Labour's drive to put toddlers in childcare so mothers can go out to work is damaging a generation, the Government's own research showed yesterday."
"Young children who spend long hours in nurseries are more disruptive and anxious than infants mainly looked after at home by their mothers. The earlier they go to nursery, the worse their behaviour becomes."
"Toddlers left in daycare for at least 30 hours a week are "significantly" more likely to bully other children, tease them, call them names and demand their own way."
Basically the study says raising a child with two working parents is child abuse. Is that going to stop our wonderfully selfless feminists from demanding "independence" at their children's expense anyway?
2007-04-10
19:51:32
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You people do realise that if the selfless feminists decide they are going to point their fingers at men and say men should stay home, not gonna work because of what really oppresses women THEIR OWN HYPERGAMY. Women marry up or equal, househusbands would be FAR LESS accepted by women than housewives by men.
So try again if that's your only response.
2007-04-10
20:23:01 ·
update #1
Rio: You do realise that you saying you went to daycare and turned out well is rather biased, not to mention DEFINITELY a matter of opinion, right? LOL. Know we know...
2007-04-11
14:19:11 ·
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mum3grls: uhh you're a single parent, the evidence that children coming from female headed families suffer negative effects is OVERWHELMING compared to similar evidence about daycare, so your kids are screwed very badly either way. Congratulations you're an exception to the rule, but only because you should be shot.
p_p and wenders: This is yahoo answers. If you have a question ask it in the appropriate provided place for asking questions.
2007-04-11
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No they will just make their own study carried out by feminists where they will lie about the fact that it harms children. They will probably lie and say it even benefits them.
Nevermind the fact that Steinhäuser a guy who killed 13 Students (heck of a marksman) in Germany with a 9 mm and then himself was the child of working parents which, I believe, divorced too and basically couldnt be bothered for him.
EDIT: I stand corrected he killed 16 People.
EDIT: You feminist dumb@sses you not only demanding to work, but also demanding that hubby keeps working and bringing money home if you decide to do so is the reason that corporation can spread the same salary they payed to a man in the past over a man and a woman.
2007-04-11 01:58:51
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answered by Cassius 2
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Great just what we need more bullies, this forum has more than enough as it is... Child abuse? Don't you think you are going just a wee little bit to far? Are you a clinical psychologist? By the way I know a bully who had a full time mom at home.
I am not sure where some of you keep your brain but I can assure you mine is not in my a*s so I am not sure how it can be either dumb or smart it just makes your jeans look better (well some anyway) as well as a few other duties.
Rio is right there are other studies that show that daycare helps with the socialization of children I personally do think that daycare is not the best option but I am certainly not going to tell that mom (or dad) that must work that she/he is bad I would imagine food on the table out weighs some other decisions good or bad. I would not tell a single dad he is bad either - my brother is a single dad.
2007-04-11 10:12:26
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answered by ~Brookelyn~ 3
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Sounds like you have your mind made up already that childcare is bad. I think its possible to raise well adjusted children that attend day care. Working mothers are not the only reason for maladjusted children. It is the breakdown of the family unit- where both mother and father PARENT the children, and teach by example, including morals, respect, hard work etc etc. Too many PARENTS (not just mom) are waiting for other people to raise their children, and then they are upset when the kids aren't turning out "right". But I think you are wrong to point the finger singly at working mothers, and daycares. It takes a whole community to raise a child, and it starts with mom AND dad.
2007-04-11 07:52:33
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answered by Penny P 5
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I know. Forget food, clothing and shelter!!! Children don't need to EAT, after all, as long as they're home with their mommies all day!
Also... I have a question for you. You claim that you want all fathers to have 50% custody, yet you post something like this, claiming that women should stay home with the children. So in reality, you do not support 50/50 hands-on parenting. You support parenting by the mother, but when parents get divorced, the dad can THEN take on 50% of the parenting? Oh, and what about when the dad is at work - guess where the kid is going to go? Oh, right, I forgot, kids don't need food or shelter. Parents don't need to work. Right.
And I think you missed this part of this article:
BE CONFIDENT
* Be open and direct about what they want * Be confident with other people * Tend to be proud of things they have done * Show interest in many and different things * Enjoy talking to others
HAVE SOCIAL SKILLS
* Easily get others to pay attention to them * Be friendly towards others * Join a group of children playing * Ask or want to play a game with other children * Talk to other children
-many studies have shown that children who stay home, and children who go to daycare, have little to no differences
-many studies have shown that stay at home moms are more depressed than working moms and claim feeling useless and incompetent
Regarding your comment about women "marrying up," first of all, that is not a universal truth. I agree that in general, men are very much valued for their money and prestige, but that is one of the things that feminists fight against, by attempting to deconstruct gender roles (male and female).
2007-04-11 14:34:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Carrie makes a very good point. What you are espousing is making the mother PRIMARY CAREGIVER of the children, and when couples divorce, the courts look at who was the primary caregiver when custody is to be determined. THAT has a lot to do with women being awarded physical custody more often...women were the main care givers BEFORE the divorce, and the courts see this as a good reason to continue that pattern. So if more mothers are going to be stay-at-home moms, then more mothers will continue to get custody. And isn't that exactly what you are AGAINST? Why should it be 50/50 AFTER the divorce, when it wasn't that way BEFORE the divorce?
2007-04-11 15:36:28
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answered by wendy g 7
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Most women have to work, the husbands salary alone does not pay the bills, most children are in daycare because both mom and dad have to work now in order to make it, not sure what that has to do with feminism. The anti-feminists are working too.... Even Leah is working unless her websites selling pantaloons are free? It would still take hours to create and edit even if it were an information only site, and she is a writer which is very time consuming...... You may be working at home (or not) but it is taking time away from your children just like all moms feminists AND anti-feminists alike......
2007-04-11 09:03:16
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answered by M B 5
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I think the feminists would care a lot, and work towards finding a viable solution that would work for everyone instead of trying to pin the blame exclusively on women. If studies started to find children in childcare grew up maladjusted would our selfless masculinists care?
2007-04-11 14:58:34
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answered by Deirdre O 7
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people who decide to be parents should do everything possible to have one parent at home with the children. That might mean giving up the larger home, the expensive car, the designer clothes. It's about priorities. The children or the 'stuff'.
I know this does not fit everyone's life, especially single parents.
2007-04-11 03:04:03
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answered by winkcat 7
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As you pointed out, there have been studies like that and they are for the large part buried.
Common sense will tell you that a baby is better off with its mother than with a stranger. I have heard stories about daycares that will make your hair curl, and before anyone says those are isolated cases, let me say they're not. They're everywhere. Everyone seems to have one. Childcare is a hard job, and unless you have the love for that child, you're not going to do as good of a job as someone who does.
We made alot of sacrifices to keep our children home, and I don't regret any of them. My sister is making sacrifices to keep her children at home, and they are the best adjusted, happiest children I know. They don't have attachment issues. They are very secure. I have seen kids who are in daycare just lose it whenever their mother left the room because they think she won't be coming back for hours. It's terribly sad.
Dear 1SmartB--My children are ages 20, 16, & 13 now. They don't need me every second of the day, but when they do I am here. Yes, I have a home business, but I still manage to homeschool them (though most of their classes are in co-ops or online now). However, even my 16 year old son does not like it when I'm not home for long periods of time.
2007-04-11 08:13:46
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answered by Anonymous
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If you really believe this then why don't YOU stay at home with the kid or encourage A PARENT to stay home rather than just the mother??? I personally know a family where the mother was making more than the father so he did the right thing and stayed at home with the kids so they wouldn't be in day care all day. Now what do you think about that you misogynistic a-hole?
PS- I really like how you described feminists as being "selfless" when you probably meant "selfish"
2007-04-11 03:05:31
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answered by Anonymous
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you're so ignorant.....When my kids went into daycare my choices were.....work full time as a single parent.....and put girls into daycare.....or stay home and and struggle to live off food pantries and handouts from welfare......some people don't have a choice....I am now able to be home when my kids are home....but I am fortunate many women don't have that choice......so if you feel so strongly about it do something positive instead of adding more guilt to the women that didn't have kids to raise them alone and in daycare.....
2007-04-11 11:47:37
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answered by Mum3grls 3
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