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Where do you think HE came from. Everyone I've talked to says there must be a god because the universe and everything in it (including life) couldnt create itself. Going on that theory God created everything but where did he come from?????

2007-04-10 09:43:07 · 38 answers · asked by Chris M 3 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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I believe in God, but my concept of God is vastly different than most.

My take on it is that everything always existed, just as different form of energy, including potential energy.

2007-04-10 09:55:24 · answer #1 · answered by steve_monroe_2005 3 · 1 0

Philosophically, as the first cause, God has neither a beginning or an end. Always was, is, and always will be. Unlike man who lives and dies... This is a fundamental question that Buddhists do not have to ask, because they do not try to reduce God into a human body, to personify Him. Some believers explain this by saying that God is "above" space and time or "beyond" space and time. Also, some believers point out that God did not "create" anything, rather that the Universe and everything it are "manifestations" of God. When you think about it, this idea actually makes it fairly easy to reconcile science and philosophy...

2007-04-10 10:04:56 · answer #2 · answered by jpturboprop 7 · 1 0

The argument for the existance of metaphysical entities such as God(s) from first causes is reasonably persuasive and has a long history in western philosophy. Of course, it rather begs the question "who created God?". It is sometimes countered that God by His/its very essence did not have a creator. Bertrand Russell in "Why I am not a Christian" noted, and I paraphrase, that if you are going to arbitrarily attribute the quality of not needing a creator to an abstraction such as a God you may as well apply it to the universe as a whole. Russell, however, like his contemporaries Popper and Wittgenstein, broked very little in the way of metaphysics.

Since the Middle Ages - and enhanced by Descarthes - ontological arguments have superceded arguments from first causes although they have not been widely in fashion since Kant.

The most useful modern argument for the existance of a God is the modal ontological argument which rests on two premises: a) that there might be a God, b) that necessarily if there is God, God must necessarily exist (i.e. it must be essential and not just contingent). From premise "a" we deduce that in at least one potential universe there is a God and thus from "b" we see that it must by necessity apply to all potential universes - ergo, God must exist. The flaw lies in premise "a" which again begs a question - can we use the possibility of a God within an attempted proof with hitherto no formal evidence of existance.

2007-04-11 02:58:42 · answer #3 · answered by Andrew H 2 · 0 0

How could God be God if He was small enough to be understood completely and totally by the minds of the creatures He created?
Doesn't it make sense that God must be beyond complete human comprehension, just because He has to be greater than us to have created us?
What's wrong with accepting that God has always existed and will always exist; and when your mind rebels at trying to wrap itself around that concept, just accepting it as a natural human limitation?
A more important question than where did God come from is where are you going when you die, because that has an eternal impact on you personally.
God loves you and has provided a way for you to be with Him forever through accepting Jesus. Christianity is not about earning salvation through works, or "living a good enough life to get into heaven," but it's about personally accepting Christ's finished work on the cross. He paid for your sins so you don't have to.
Christianity is about believing God, which is counted to you as righteousness. When you believe in Jesus, He gives you His very own righteousness, so you are regarded by God as completely justified--"just as if I'd never sinned." It's a free gift and a blessing beyond comparison: a personal relationship with a real God who really loves you and knows you completely, even better than you know yourself.

2007-04-11 14:12:42 · answer #4 · answered by Rella 6 · 0 0

To speculate as to the origin, or source of life and everything lies outside the realm of science, it is called metaphysics. Philosophers and theologians all seek or believe to have found the answer, but they posses only the capacity or ability of reasoning, or the capacity of believing, without reasons, blind faith.

These two means are opposites, the one subjugating every thought or idea to the rules of logic, inductive and deductive reasoning, based on or utilizing observations, thus interpreted phenomena, the other on a fixed explanation, a closed book, a revealed truth, a final statement, to be believed without question, with no doubt allowed to the one basic belief that there is a god and he/she/it made it all, with revealed reasons as to why.

But none of these ways know the answer as to the origin of it all, besides believing, as it is impossible to observe our own beginning, we merely become aware of it though conscious existence. Could there be a god? Yes. Could there be no cause for existence. No. Cause isn't reason, or purpose, merely cause.

The only explanations that then are available to those not believing in god as the prime mover, are that existence have always been and cannot seize, in some form, albeit that life could originate and become extinct, or that this universe came from a cause unknown, but that that cause has always been, cannot un-be, and could give rise to multiple universes or realities, forms of existence.

So they ignore the question, deny it has any relevance since it cannot be investigated or proofed or remained baffled and mystified, but choose not to make up or take on any explanation that cannot be tested, choosing to live with uncertainty, but not delusion.

2007-04-11 04:01:31 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God is not there for our understanding. Trying to work out the being that created our universe, is like trying to get a plankton to understand quantam physics. I am not a religious person, but I believe in a superior being that made life and the universe. If you read books and see different TV shows you realise that life and everything around it is too complex to be created by cosmic chance.

Here is something for you. Our sun is the size of a pin head compared to other suns in the universe. If our planet with all its life on it surrounds our sun, then what is the size of the planets that surround the other giant suns? There could be lifeforms out there that we would be ants compared to.

Maybe 'God' is a life-form that created us in a lab somewhere and our universe exists in its test-tube on a shelf. We could be one of its first experiments.

2007-04-11 01:17:56 · answer #6 · answered by mickeyleon123 2 · 0 0

I've tried to explain this by saying that God was here, and then time was created. (s)He was here before time, and that is why we can't understand it. If something came from something else, that means that the something else was there before the something, which is in a sense a measure of time. If time wasn't here, we wouldn't measure these things, and everything would just be always there, and always would have been there. That's the only plausible explanation I've been able to come up with.

2007-04-10 11:46:12 · answer #7 · answered by theshawnaproject 2 · 0 0

God is not a single individual. The universe was never created. The universe has always been here. Humans have created the idea that something must begin. Most humans cannot comprehend the theory that the universe was never created, because humans rely on visual images to create an idea....and there is no vivid idea of a blank. God is a force within a force and cannot be measured by a human that still lives its life in a=self destructive manner. The quest for god and existence is light years away from our comprehension. Humans are still battling themselves....

2007-04-10 09:54:31 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

I used to be an athiest and I always asked the same question. I wanted proof.
I don't think "He" came from anywhere or anything. I think it's highly improbable for any human to understand that there is no beginning and there is no end.
Time is relative, something we made up to keep track of ourselves. God has always been and always will be and it can take a lot of faith and trust to understand you may never understand.

2007-04-13 19:57:55 · answer #9 · answered by Closed for Remodeling 3 · 0 0

A different philosophical argument says that God cannot exist because God would not allow the existence of evil and evil clearly exists therefore God cannot exist. If you ask me God exists because people believe in Him/Her... Or you could say if God is in everything then we are all God and therefore whatever exists in totality and God are exactly the same thing.

2007-04-10 12:00:12 · answer #10 · answered by carly s 2 · 0 0

Human beings and human intellect have its limitations. we are bound by time, and have to think in terms of origins and development. Immanuel Kant had the insight that time is just a perspective, but not something inherent to reality.
Spinoza saw God as a soul that encompasses the whole of reality. He/She IS Reality.
Paul Tillich developed a separate category for the existence of God. God is not being, but the Ground of Being. He/She is not only, but IS. His/Her existence is of a different nature of our own existence. So the question of the origin of Reality or of Existence or God, with a capital, does not make sense, according to Tillich. It is like asking the colour of twelve o'clock.

2007-04-10 10:23:13 · answer #11 · answered by theoikos 2 · 0 0

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