first no one is against capitalism.. many just think that pure capitalism is not the answer.. so slide it a little and add a few social programs (socialism does not compete with democracy, it competes with capitalism) and most don't advocate tipping the scale.. leave capitalism as the driving force.. it seems to work.. but take care of those in need.. how can we claim to be the greatest country on the planet and not help those that need help? which brings me to my next point.. why do you assume everyone that needs help is a lazy drug addicted person.. some may be.. and I'm all for adding more accountability to the system.. but adding accountability does not mean casting out the system that helps so many that need help! How many mothers and children has WIC helped? How many people who had a stroke of bad luck were able to keep their homes and get new jobs due to unemployment? how man children are alive now that wouldn't be all due to the drive to bring them all health care? these are all social programs.. would you get rid of them because a few are taking advantage of them? or should we strive to weed out those that are the problem? so in the end.. I have no problem with working people and companies making money.. but what's wrong with giving a small % of that back to the nation that has allowed you to make that money?
2007-04-10 06:38:36
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answered by pip 7
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Few liberals are against Capitalism, including myself. The problem is when the employees of big business are taken advantage of. When the working class is exploited by the wealthy it's a crime against humanity.
The profit motive used by Capitalism is a good way to run an economy. But that doesn't mean anything goes. I have a big problem with wealthy CEOs complaining about the fact that they may have to pay their workers more than $5.15 an hour. Capitalism doesn't work perfectly. Thats why we need some government intervention. If you want to become rich fine. Just make sure your workers can make a decent living !
While I grant you that the welfare system frequently gets abused, and needs to be reformed, many people have legitimate reasons for requiring financial support. Until we can find a cost effective way to differentiate between the ones that are abusing the system and the ones who are not, it would be best to err on the side of caution. and make sure people have enough financial support to survive.
2007-04-10 20:48:24
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answered by ? 6
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Capitalism is a system which has a major flaw, it allows for accelerated profits for the rich. If you have money, the money you have can make even more money without any actual work being done on the part of the one making the money. This is not my opinion, it is a proven statistical fact of economics (I have examples if I must provide them). The reason why liberal economics works well is because it helps to reverse this trend and stabilizes the economy.
Many liberals hate capitalism and companies because they are the machinery which allows the offset to continue and the shareholders of the companies profits do not make money by "working", they make it by "risking" which is something completely different.
Most of the money from our taxes goes to needed public services, some goes to helping the homeless and people who are mentally ill. If we didn't give them those services it would destablize society.
Most liberals care about hardworking people and that is why they are liberal.
2007-04-10 19:06:45
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answered by Anonymous
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I can only speak for myself as a liberal--I don't speak for liberals in general. I have no problem with capitalism or companies and individuals making money. If I think a company makes a good product or offers a good service, then it SHOULD profit. If an individual shows him or herself to be an ept and hard worker, then that person should profit as well.
That said, however, it is important and incumbent upon the public--through its elected representatives--to make the playing field as level as possible. There should be a minimum wage, there should be free public education, there should be national healthcare. These things do not prevent individuals from profiting from their hard work, only providing a minimum amount of support from which all can compete.
Moreover, there should be things that prevent companies from exploiting those whom they employ or solicit as customers, there should be protections of things in the public interest (like health and the environment), and there should rules that prevent companies from using monopolistic practices to preserve their control of any one sector of the economy.
These are not radical notions, in my opinion. Capitalism overall is a better system for improving the lot of individuals on a wide scale, but its sole interest is profit. That is naturally in a corporation's interest. But business' interest is not necessarily a nation's...
2007-04-10 06:43:08
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answered by blueevent47 5
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Good God...how hard is it to understand that the "rich" are rich because they're better at making money than the average person!
If a liberal inherited $1 million and had to choose who would manage his investments, would he hire his adolescent neighbor who mows his lawn for $5.00 per hour or a trained investment adviser who can double his money, but who charges $500 per hour?
Well when he did, he'd have two employees, one very well off who makes 100 times more than the other who really can't totally support himself on what he's paid.
Would Mr. liberal be evil now?
2007-04-11 16:56:43
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answered by Anonymous
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Being against the excesses of jungle capitalism isn't being against capitalism itself.Even your President has his bright moments
Bush Warns Wall Street on Pay
By DAVID LOMBINO
Staff Reporter of the Sun
February 1, 2007
President Bush did more than upset traffic during his visit to Lower Manhattan yesterday. During a speech delivered in the heart of the financial district, where compensation packages routinely reach into the tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars, Mr. Bush announced that he would ask corporations to curb excessive executive pay.
"America's corporate boardrooms must step up to their responsibilities," he told an elite corporate crowd gathered for the event. "You need to pay attention to the executive compensation packages that you approve. You need to show the world that American businesses are a model of transparency and good corporate governance.
I think there's the misunderstanding.You think liberals talk about you or hard working Americans when they speak out against excessice wealth but that doesn't have to be the case.In the stock markets insane amounts are made without very much effort and those people aren't even addicted to drugs.They sure are lazy though.
2007-04-10 06:36:56
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answered by justgoodfolk 7
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I am a liberal and I am not against companies making money
I am against companies making money when they sell to Americans and have sent the work overseas
I am against companies gouging the public (ie: gas industry)
I am against companies making inferior products in order to save money at the expense of the safety and well being of the American public
I am against the republican idea that when these products maim or kill a consumer that consumer should not be able to seek recourse in the courts (your tort reform)
I do not want to "give" money to people that won't work or are addicted----THANK YOU BILL CLINTON 1st Pres to Attack and Reform Welfare (Welfare to work)
I am against these companies hiring illegles to work for them in substandard conditions as they are afraid to say anything under fear of deportation
I am against the Republican roll back of the gains we made concerning the ecology, ALL FOR MORE PROFIT
(I'm sure you think ecology is another global warming claim you can dismiss)
2007-04-10 06:39:17
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answered by Anonymous
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RLP, please...for the love of God, stop painting your world with such a large brush!!
Nobody...I repeat, NOBODY I know is totally "against" capitalism. If anything, it has a great deal to do with the topic of my latest blog. Check it out.
And what's with all this CRAP about giving money "hand-over-fist to...lazy...drug-addicted people?"
What in the HELL are you talking about, woman?
First of all, for your information, there will probably ALWAYS be people who are poor, broke, down on their luck, or in "dire straits." I assume that as a Christian, you support and promote a sense of benevolence, no? I sure do. That's what my mom taught me; to have a sense of sympathy for other people.
Now...dearie...if some of these people don't happen to particularly fit YOUR particular criteria for "worthiness," I can't help you there.
Please...in the name of the Lord, STOP all your ridiculous postings that suggest that democrats just walk around handing out cash to drug addicts.
Only a moron would post something like that.
What the HELL are you talking about regarding being against "working people?"
What the HELL do you think I did for 33 years, dearie? I wore a "blue collar" and steel toed shoes, and sweated my butt off in manufacturing plants.
I earned every damn dollar I was paid.
Now...dearie...if you'd like to talk about bastards like Kenneth Lay, NOW we have a game!
Do you support what he did?
That's the kind of thing I get wild about. And rightly so.
So get off this goofy notion of yours, suggesting that "liberals" support drug addiction.
Oh, by the way...do you enjoy alcohol in any form or amount? Just curious.
Are you by any chance taking any kind of prescription drugs for mood alteration? Just curious.
So, get down off your moral "high horse," Robin!
As I suggested in a previous response, your Yahoo picture would very likely be considered salacious by any devout Mormon or Mennonite. Care to make fun of those people?
PS: so far, the score board says you LOSE again.
2007-04-10 11:35:27
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answered by Anonymous
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It is in part how they make themselves feel good and think they look good when they can give your money away.
And to globalwa: <<<
Drug addiction is a medical problem, and unemployment is a social problem, >>>>
Both of the problems you listed above are problems with people taking personal responsibility for their lives. It is only after they shirk and refuse their responsibility that the problems become medical and social.
2007-04-10 08:07:49
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answered by clwkcmo 5
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How much do you think a CEO deserves to be paid?
Chevron's CEO received $37 million in total compensation last year. Conoco Phillips' CEO got $17 million. Then there's Exxon's CEO and his stunning $400 million pay and retirement package.
I'm not saying they don't deserve a higher salary than the average Joe, but really? What the hell are they going to do with all that money?
And to answer your ? about the "lazy drug addicted people who don't work?"
Drug addiction is a medical problem, and unemployment is a social problem,
2007-04-10 06:47:56
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answered by Global warming ain't cool 6
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