If Islamic culture is the source of the problem, then why bother trying to rebuild Afghanistan or Iraq?

Question

Rebuilding Japan entailed none of the problems inherent in Afghanistan or Iraq, and the reason is couldn't be more obvious...theres no islam in Japan.

Yet we throw good money and good solider after bad money and IUD'd solider .

Whar a waste...soliders are trained to fight enemy forces, not police hatefilled islamic communities and provide target practice for communities that hate your race, religion, and cultural identity.

Answer 1

You are 100% correct.I can't understand why we have even given any company money already to rebuild in Iraq when it's being blown up every day.Why not wait until we see what emerges there first.If it's a government that supports terrorism then we don't give them a dime to rebuild.That alone should buy us 100 years of not having to worry about them being a real threat.But if we rebuild now for them that is just fixing things so they can put their money to hurt us.The same holds true for Afghanistan. I would love to see anyone dispute this.Especially Republicans seeing I'm one of those "Bleeding Heart Liberals" everyone loves to bash.

Answer 2

Well, that is a good point, but a little off the mark. The problem is the culture, yes that is true, but that does not mean that is because of Islam.
You build a very wide conclusion based on a very unequal comparison with Japan. The defeat and almost total social and cultural upheaval that occured in Japan, and Germany, at the time, is very different than the social situation in Iraq. Both Japan and Germany went through their wars, their extreme nationalism and they were utterly defeated. The entire ruling elite, their ideas and their ideologies (even their history) were completely discredited and wiped away.
None of this has happened in Iraq, or in fact in any Islamic country. Moslems still hold on to a romanticized vision of their past and its glories. There has been no grand traumatic incident that has come in and washed away the "old", the socities continue on, stuggling to reconcile themselves with the modern world.
Again, i refuse to link Islam itself with the situation in Iraq, because that would be wrong and unfair generalization.
How would this explain the incredible rise of states like Dubai or Malaysia? I think we need to look more at the specifics within each country. Islam is just as bad as Christanity when it comes to violence. Just because mainstream Christianity grew up and matured does not mean that Islam won't. It's only a matter of time. No religion is better than the other, they all posses the same dogmatic and violence-prone beliefs.
Let's also not forget the very violent and turbulent history and composition of Iraq. There was no Iraq before the 1920's and perhaps one of the major sources of violence there is that we are trying to hold something together that is not a country. Let Iraq seperate into the three areas that it really is and just leave it at that. Japan is a very homogenous nation state, and to a certain extent the German national idenity was well formed by the 20th century. None of this is present in Iraq.
If you think that there is a hatred for the west, its race, religion and cultural identity, then there is also that in the west; a complete hatred and ignorance about the Middle East.
I am not making excuses, and frankly, Islam can go to hell for all i care, it has many flaws, but i like to exmaine things deeper and discern where the problem lies, not just make grand generalizations that serve no purpose and only exacerbate the mutual ignorance on both sides.
As for the answer about the fear by the militant groups in Iraq that the USA will succeed, yes that is very true, to them it is a clear cultural struggle, if the USA wins, then they lose. That is why, we must not lose in Iraq, this is a life and death struggle with medieval, fanatical forces that will not stop their hatred at Iraq's borders. The least we can do is to keep them really, really busy in Iraq.

Answer 3

When rebuilding Japan, the main issue of Japan's acceptance of an unconditional surrender was the role of Emperor Hirohito. In essence, he was recognized as semi-divine. So there was a religious issue with Japan, too. When rebuilding nations, all cultures must be respected as it was with Japan. If so-called occupiers can't accept the culture of the nation they have occupied then the occupation is doomed to failure because of popular uprising of the citizens. There is sectarian violence in many areas of the country that the US should avoid, unless our immediate interests are at stake. In the case of Iraq, we should leave. They do not want us there. They should have a right to rebuild their country according to their own culture. It's up to Iraq whether or not to end the civil war and to build up their own forces. In Afghanistan, the Taliban are a different, altogether unpopular sect. They do not have the overall support of the Afghan people because of their cruel treatment of women, the nation's intelligencia, and they are brutal in the punishment of any thing that isn't based on 7th century Islam. We should stay there to stabilize the government because our help and that of the UN peacekeepers have more of a defined role.

Answer 4

Islam perpetuates a cycle of poverty, ignorance, and backwardsness. It is like a heavy truck, hopelessly mired in three feet of slippery mud. On its own, the truck will never extricate itself.

However, with our intervention, these people will be exposed to new ideas. They won't be able to hide behind cloaks of ignorance because they have seen another way. What I really think needs to be done is a program of subtle, and sometimes not so subtle ridicule. If these people realize their society lacks culture and civilization, they will try to change. This is one of the main reasons the insurgents are trying to hard to make us leave. They don't want their people exposed to new ideas. In a clash of cultures, ours will always win.

Answer 5

personally I think we are making a mistake in rebuilding anyone after a war. As if we leave them in the rubble they cant harm us can they? Of course I think we should seize their oil too , which could be used to pay for the costs of the war, and lower gas prices

Answer 6

you know, in the journey that that they had no oil, I guess you'd be abdomen dancing with a Muslim correct this second, fairly being all paranoid . They hate us? Now keep in innovations we are those over there killing them correct? Are there any Muslims the following contained in the U. S. terrorizing us? it really is solid to apply your mind in certain situations in case you could, and study this crap you carry forth Edit: Do you blame them my chum, did you know ways many we've killed and keep killing on a daily basis, they are protecting their u . s . in simple terms like you and that i could, so we are only growing to be further and extra terrorist. Do you fairly imagine that this human beings were given up one morning and desirous to hate us and our freedom? guy we've been messing with those human beings seeing that early 50's, even as they all started mass production and exportation of their oil. you be conscious chum, all you purchased to do is to be sure some casualties documents on their side, my resources say over a million.2 million civilians in simple terms in Iraq. Now regardless of if that documents is 50% ccorrect, it truly is over 600,000 human beings killed seeing that our invasion. besides no not basic thoughts dude it really is in simple terms politics. Regards.

Answer 7

Thinking Islamic anything is the "problem" is on par with saying blacks are incapable of learning and should never be left alone with white women. It's simply not true. Why use the same logic that justified slavery and segregation when we know it to be false.

Answer 8

It's not the Islamic culture which is the problem. It's the West.

Answer 9

and who told u that Islamic culture is the problem------i know that Europe and civilized studies came from their studies

Answer 10

Right on,just leave.