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by Bush and large parts of the Dem congress.

2007-04-08 09:55:57 · 13 answers · asked by Chi Guy 5 in Politics & Government Politics

amnesty, by any other name is still amnesty...

2007-04-08 09:56:28 · update #1

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Wow Chi, your additional details made it so clear...uh, yeah. Anyway no amnesty for illegals! Sorry. Both parties are wrong, the democrats for suggesting and pushing it and the President for trying to win points with them. This is politics at its worst. Before we argue about this and blame Bush or the dems, lets ask how and why did we get to this point?!

Nobody is addressing the real issues:

-hiring of illegals
-mortgages to illegals
-free health care
-etc.

Stop these and amnesty wouldn't matter! It should be illegal, punishable by jail time to hire, use, feed, cloth, give health care to, give mortgages, car insurance, etc. ANYONE without proper documentation. PERIOD. Put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it.

2007-04-08 10:04:36 · answer #1 · answered by chi_guys_gay_lover 2 · 1 0

I haven't read it so I can't say for sure.
Generally, though, I would support amnesty with a 6 month time limit to apply. Do I want 12 million Mexicans becoming citizens? Not necessarily, but I'm being realistic. Realistically, far less than half of them will actually apply for amnesty. As for those who don't, I support a more aggresive deportation effort and a wall to keep them out in the future. Of course, that wall is useless without plenty of cameras so immigration sees them coming. Once they get past the wall, it a financial drain on us to deport them. Better to turn them away at the wall.

2007-04-08 10:27:15 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The U.S. is in huge danger of having its cultural base skewed by this massive, illegal immigration. Whites will someday be the minority.

How can we say that people who not only intentionally broke our laws, but then smugly and defiantly protest against our government, would make good citizens?

I think we have to stop being so PC. We can't allow 11 million Mexicans to further change the racial composition of our country. We should immediately impose huge fines on employers who hire illegals. Not only will this immediately stop the illegal invasion, but within a couple days, all the buses headed south will mysteriously be packed full. Mexicans will head home because they can no longer work illegally here.

I am against amnesty. If someone wants to stay, he should go through the legal process. We have let this problem get so out of control, we're no longer talking about what is best for the country, nor what is fair and equitable, but what is feasible. That's how bad the situation is.

2007-04-08 10:04:44 · answer #3 · answered by pachl@sbcglobal.net 7 · 1 1

The sad thing is it doesn't really matter whether or not you are for it or not.

Basically, it comes down to corporations. If there is amnesty, corporations employ the cheapest laborers. If there isn't, the corporations outsource for the cheapest labor (or open plants in the cheapest countries).

What immigrant amnesty does give vs. outsourcing is more taxable revenue to the government coffers. So it is actually a boon to have immigrant amnesty from that perspective. Without it, all they have are the standard taxation rules which any corporation worth its slime^H^H^H salt knows how to get around.

This isn't about being nice or not. This is about money.

~X~

2007-04-08 10:21:18 · answer #4 · answered by X 4 · 1 0

Boy is that a tough one for several reasons.


1.) I am the descendant of immigrants to this country (Irish) who came here ILLEGALLY! (They weren't especially welcome here, neither were they in the "quota" allowed in so emigrated to Canada back in the late eighteen hundreds and then walked across the border into upstate New York and paid a priest in Fulton new York for phoney baptism certificates stating they had been baptized as infants there in that parish in the US.

2.) The immigrants wanting to be legalized right now are basically central americans. One thing they all have in their favour is they are basically Christian as far as their religion, offsetting the influx of the Muslim immigrants from India Pakistan and the Middle East that came from the 1970's on. THAT alone is a big plus in their favour helping to keep the Muslim reiligion in check in our nation (Unlike France where they are now destroying everything they can worm themselves into even the subway system!!!!)



Reality is these people are going to keep coming here illegally as they have not much other choice if they hope to survive.

I am by the way an ultra conservative on just about every point but this one.

If *I* were living in Guatemala always on the verge of starving and looking at MY little kids growing up with the only hope they have being that MAYBE one day they can get a job at 6 years old in a sweat shop YOU BETCHA I would cross that border in the dead of night, and if you caught me and sent me back I would be right back the next chance I had!
We have to face REALITY on this problem NOT the idealism or the way it SHOULD be.

2007-04-08 10:08:50 · answer #5 · answered by Sean 3 · 1 0

Bi Partisan here. I believe they should go case by case.
Investigate the employers, the paperwork used or not used.
Have they paid taxes? Raised families here. What exactly is their investment here, motive or intent? I feel that sadly because of lack of money, people and time a blanket policy may pass. That seems unfair but how many lose out if we bog them down in paperwork. Most of your top 10 cities are packed with illegal immigrants. What do you do with millions of people displaced? How about the jobs they took because employers refuse to pay a descent wage or some of our citizens don't care to work at those jobs. But we need those jobs filled. Required health care is becoming a distant memory in most employers vocabulary. These folks work, most of them but I agree it is WAY out of control.
Bush and the Dem Congress that will be news to me if they finally agree.

2007-04-08 10:09:01 · answer #6 · answered by Mele Kai 6 · 0 0

Just say 'no' to amnesty...we can't round them all up at once but as we find them send them back to their country of record just like the immigration Laws state.

2007-04-08 10:13:51 · answer #7 · answered by jeff_loves_life 3 · 0 0

Democrat. NO AMNESTY!!!

That's not to say I am against LEGAL immigration. We should lift the limits. Let all illegals go home, get in line and come to this country LEGALLY!. When they do, they can work, starve, or go back home. No welfare, no handouts.

2007-04-08 10:16:55 · answer #8 · answered by John H 6 · 0 0

I am unsure of how to handle the illegal immigration issue in the US. Sending them back hasn't worked. They keep coming back.

At least with this plan, we can document them and tax them.

By the way, Bush and the Dems also agreed on the Patriot Act. And Iraq. But hey, who's counting.

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