Should Europeans in SA be deported, then pay to reenter SA if allowed back at all?

Question

Europeans generally have the wrong impression that they are essential in SA. They are land thieves, as in Zim - and worse than useless. They injure the country by their economic and political sabotage and constant carping. They bribe the poor to become Christian and follow their propaganda. Let them enjoy Europe, immediately. They came as invaders and deceivers empty handed. That is how they will return to mother Europe.

Europe for europeans. Euros on this service are the same timid souls who enjoyed their dominance and still crave staying in South Africa after their crimes and no penalties. Kick the criminals out. There is no role for Europe in S Africa. There are no white s africans...Holland is calling the afrikaner home.

Africans toAfrica, and Europeans to Europe. It is a win-win.

Africans should build the fence to keepth eeuro disease in Europe. All Europeans out of America too. Send the colonial stains back to their origins.

Answer 1

If you question any family or individual whether it be white, brown, pink, ebony or what ever colour, who has left South Africa and struggled through an immigration process to obtain entry into another country - the majority will say they have done so because of the crime or politics in South Africa i.e. to live in a healthier social environment.

That is the issue, not racial hatred, the only racial hatred I ever experienced, up until my last day in South Africa 2.5 years ago, was in the old South African Apartheid system.
Anybody could have been the target of racial attacks then, including English (how many Soutpiels did you see working in governmental institutions), Italians (I-ties, grease monkeys) Portuguese (sea kaf...s), Chinese (slant eyes) or even if your skin was a shade too dark etc. etc.

I have worked with most races in the old and new south africa and have mostly positive experiences to tell.
The past was a sick environment in which all (including the abusers, even if they don't realise it) were abused, and South Africa entered into a much better future without it, but for goodness sake why can't we all live safely while enjoying it!
Is that too much to ask?

I, for one, was extremely happy and positive about our new South Africa, living in an environment that appealed to many on a deeper spiritual level as well - whereby all were equal.

But now in the new S.A. some can't help but feel that some are still more equal than others.
What have we learnt from everything?
Why can't our number one priority be to protect all our citizens so that we can all have a safe, happy and healthy environment?

Answer 2

Do you honestly think that Africa will be perfect without Whites.? You are forgetting about all the other races who make up our "rainbow nation" must they all go to the continents they are originally from?I was born and raised in SA and i will die there. I will never return to Europe for good and i know that is how the rest of us feel too.
Have a look at Zimbabwe , is it better of? do you revell in the fact that the people there have to eat Rats to survive? Would you like it if that happened in SA? you forget that all the commodities you have right now where brought in from the whites and asian technologies. I think that you are filled with your own hate and dont really think the consequences of certain actions through.
Would Sa turn into another Darfur as one black ethnic tribe tried to wipe out the other?Perhaps as if it is not an economic power no one will care. If Africans really want Africa for themselves why have they just asked the U.N to fund the AU? Why are the African countries permantly asking for funds to feed their people who are in the grip of Starvation due to draught ?(not whites as you seem to think) . Africa needs Europe as much as Europe needs Africa.
Why not tell us your experiances that brought you to this place of hate for us. We would love to know i am sure.

Answer 3

First of all Europeans brought civilization to the African continent. Without the Europeans South Africa would never have developed as far as it did. Prior to 1994 South Africa was a 1st world country and since the ANC came to power everything is going bad. Crime is the highest ever. Corruption is common and worst of all accepted by the "masses" as payback time. Look what happened in Zimbabwe. If you remove all the Europeans from South Africa the same WILL happen in South Africa. Knowledge and skills are essential in running a country and not just political power. Lastly but most important. Those who did accept Christ as their savior will be blessed with eternal life. The ones who deny Him as savior will perish. In other words go to eternal hell. For heaven sake man. Accept the Europeans as SA's last hope and Christ as your only hope!

Answer 4

I am not so sure about the deported but certainly Whites have everything to gain and little to lose in leaving South Africa. Since South Africa's "liberation form civilisation" the Country has gone backwards at a great rate of knots which serves only to further enahance the view that Africans are totally incapable of governing or caring for themselves in a civilised manner. We could also return the millions of Africans who have fled the despots of Africa to their homelands and block off the Straits of Gibraltar to stop a further mass exodus from tyranny and poverty so that they can enjoy the fruits of freedom. Europeans have tried for centuries to civilise Africans and ploughed billions of US$ into the Continent but all has failed to raise them to a level beyond the Stone Age. I agree that it is time for all Whites to leave Africa and allow Africans to get on with the daily slaughter,Wars,disease and famine that they seem to enjoy.Civilisation is too early for them and perhaps in another couple of centuries Whites can again attempt to bring civilisation to that Continent.

Answer 5

Nice to see racism is alive and growing in South Africa. I tend to agree. They should leave. They should take all they brought and leave. I encourage it. They should blockade all South Africans from entering Europe.

Any Europeans of African ancestry, of course, will be welcome with open arms.

Europeans know the difference. You don't That's good.

You'll understand when you've suffered enough from your own choices.

Answer 6

No. They're African, born there, with as much right to live there as the blacks (who also moved there expelling the original inhabitants).
Transvaal was given to the Boers by the Zulu king.
If anyone injures the country's economy it's people like Mbeki.
Look at the crime, poverty and instability in South Africa since the whites handed power back.
If you expel them South Africa would be like Zimbabwe with famine and anarchy, they are vital contributors to the country's infrastructure.

Answer 7

First things first –

I am an African South African. I was born and suffered under apartheid yoke. Now that I am free – in my country at least – I took a conscience decision that I will always stand in support of those who believe that South Africa belongs to all who live in it. People of European descend who are South African by birth or any other legal way (whether that legality was at some stage before 1994 politically contested) have the same right to live and enjoy the country like me.

Now to the question: No. According to our traditions and norms, such action has no place under our pillar of strength – ubuntu (translation- humanity). I challenge watzzup to back his call with references where Africans, as a collective, ever demanded and/or executed ethnic cleansing.

While I agree that we were colonised – and the bible (or Christianity) was used to deprive natives of their land and natural resources – that is not reason enough to demand the deportation of people of European descend from SA. It’s a fact that the same people contributed immensely to the development of the country.

Secondly – For argument’s sake, let’s say that could be attempted. How will it be implemented? To which country/ies will each of about four million white South Africans (there I go, we have white South Africans) will go? What do you say to the children – they are deported to Europe? Where in Europe? Wouldn’t that be like how many Americans (black and white) normally think and say - (lumping Africa and Africans as monkeys living in one big bush)? I have two teenage boys and by sheer coincidence of geographic location of where we live, they have white children only as their friends. So, what will I tell them about the decision to deport their friends?

Thirdly, many people of European descend have long admitted that there were many wrongs done in their name and Christianity. Many of them are committed to the country (and the continent). They are doing their best to make this country a success. You should also remember that some of them were killed for specifically fighting for black people’s rights. Names that come to mind are Braam Fischer, David Webster, Ruth First, and there are many others. So, if whites must take collective guilt, we should equally credit them as a collective for the sacrifices made by these people. Now, to quote watzzup “it is a win-win”. Therefore, they must stay.

Fourthly – Many Americans of African descend will also have to return to Africa. To which country will they go? I was at Goree Island with some African Americans in 2005. I saw them sobbing at the sight of the compound used as a jail before slaves were shipped to America. I saw some not even wanting to go stand at the “gate of no-return”. I asked some later how the visit affected them. How did they feel about the whole thing? I also asked them what their reaction would be if they could be asked to come back home. All of them said that while they admit that they could still have some direct relatives in Africa, they don’t know those people and it would be difficult to bond as family members. They also said they are not sure from which country in Africa their great-great grand parents were taken. They could end up in Senegal while they are in fact from Ghana. So, your suggestion won’t help the very same people you claim to be fighting for.

I CANNOT support your call. It’s both racist and threatens world peace.

Some of the answerers have given some disturbing answers. Other than to say that their comments are just as racist, I will deal with that in a question form later in this category.

Answer 8

yeh great idea cause they'll pay to hear this sort of rubbish......thank goodness you are in a minority within your country judging by the outstanding support you have received so far to your question. Perhaps your country will survive without the tourism from Europe..........Just look at Zimbabwe because of course it is a thriving success now ~ not!

Answer 9

SA? South Africa? South America?
Southern Alabama?

You're being so regional as to be confusing.

Answer 10

This question is unnecessary. We call ourselves the rainbow nation yet we still have people who think in such a negative manner. Thank goodness you are only a minority and not the voice of the people.