Do we want a fair and unbiased comission report on 9/11 ?

Question

The following ommissions are irrefutable:

1. The omission of evidence that at least six of the alleged hijackers---including Waleed al-Shehri, said by the Commission probably to have stabbed a flight attendant on Flight 11 before it crashed into the North Tower of the WTC---are still alive (19-20).

3. The obfuscation of the evidence that Hani Hanjour was too poor a pilot to have flown an airliner into the Pentagon (21-22).

7. The omission of the fact that, given the hypothesis that the collapses were caused by fire, the South Tower, which was struck later than the North Tower and also had smaller fires, should not have collapsed first (26).

8. The omission of the fact that WTC 7 (which was not hit by an airplane and which had only small, localized fires) also collapsed---an occurrence that FEMA admitted it could not explain (26).

10. The claim that the core of each of the Twin Towers was “a hollow steel shaft”---a claim that denied the existence of the 47 massive steel columns that in reality constituted the core of each tower and that, given the “pancake theory” of the collapses, should have still been sticking up many hundreds of feet in the air (27-28).

11. The omission of Larry Silverstein’s statement that he and the fire department commander decided to “pull” Building 7 (28).

12. The omission of the fact that the steel from the WTC buildings was quickly removed from the crime scene and shipped overseas before it could be analyzed for evidence of explosives (30).

14. The omission of Mayor Giuliani’s statement that he had received word that the World Trade Center was going to collapse (30-31).

15. The omission of the fact that President Bush’s brother Marvin and his cousin Wirt Walker III were both principals in the company in charge of security for the WTC (31-32).

18. The omission of the fact that there are photos showing that the west wing’s façade did not collapse until 30 minutes after the strike and also that the entrance hole appears too small for a Boeing 757 to have entered (34).

19. The omission of all testimony that has been used to cast doubt on whether remains of a Boeing 757 were visible either inside or outside the Pentagon (34-36).

20. The omission of any discussion of whether the Pentagon has a anti-missile defense system that would have brought down a commercial airliner---even though the Commission suggested that the al-Qaeda terrorists did not attack a nuclear power plant on their way because they assumed that it would be thus defended (36).

21. The omission of the fact that pictures from various security cameras---including the camera at the gas station across from the Pentagon, the film from which was reportedly confiscated by the FBI immediately after the strike---could presumably answer the question of what really hit the Pentagon (37-38).

26. The omission of the report that Attorney General Ashcroft was warned to stop using commercial airlines prior to 9/11 (50).

28. The omission of any mention of the FBI agents who reportedly claimed to have known the targets and dates of the attacks well in advance (51-52).

29. The claim, by means of a circular, question-begging rebuttal, that the unusual purchases of put options prior to 9/11 did not imply advance knowledge of the attacks on the part of the buyers (52-57).

30. The omission of reports that both Mayor Willie Brown and some Pentagon officials received warnings about flying on 9/11 (57).

38. The denial that any Saudis were allowed to leave the United States shortly after 9/11 without being adequately investigated (76-82).

41. The omission of Chicago FBI agent Robert Wright’s charge that FBI headquarters closed his case on a terrorist cell, then used intimidation to prevent him from publishing a book reporting his experiences (91).

43. The omission of the 3.5 hours of testimony to the Commission by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds—-testimony that, according to her later public letter to Chairman Kean, revealed serious 9/11-related cover-ups by officials at FBI headquarters (94-101).

53. The omission of the fact that The Project for the New American Century, many members of which became key figures in the Bush administration, published a document in 2000 saying that “a new Pearl Harbor” would aid its goal of obtaining funding for a rapid technological transformation of the US military (117-18).

54. The omission of the fact that Donald Rumsfeld, who as head of the commission on the US Space Command had recommended increased funding for it, used the attacks of 9/11 on that very evening to secure such funding (119-22).

55. The failure to mention the fact that three of the men who presided over the failure to prevent the 9/11 attacks—-Secretary Rumsfeld, General Richard Myers, and General Ralph Eberhart---were also three of the strongest advocates for the US Space Command (122).

61. The omission of the statement by the Project for the New American Century that “the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein” (133-34).

64. The omission of evidence that Andrews Air Force Base did keep several fighters on alert at all times (162-64).

84. The failure to mention the contradiction between Clarke’s account of Rumsfeld’s whereabouts that morning and Rumsfeld’s own accounts (217-19).

Go here for a full list.
This list was compiled by
PhD, Dr. David Ray Griffin
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php

Answer 1

Very wonderfully put, we need an outside source to do a 911 investigation, because anyone who looks at the evidence will know it was an inside job, that Bush and cheney, were all part of the plan, act of, and coverup of 911. I hope everyday that my state of Texas pulls out of union, because for Bush and them to kill americans to start wars, which was for oil, and control of oil, Is a despicable act of treason.Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield all of the idiots should be judged as war criminals and executed. 911 was an inside job, all the evidence points to it.

Answer 2

Heres the deal...We will never know all the answers....Do, I believe there is an underlying conspiracy.? Yes, I do...More than likely President Bush had nothing to do with it...Or anyone in the elected government...But, I will say this. There is definitely something fishy about the whole thing....

We all live in an illusion in the United States, and it is a good illusion...It has given us great prosperity and Happiness...But, there are certain cost to these benefits..Our government is no more powerful then the High School student council..Everybody knows that it is a puppet show for our amusement...Have you ever noticed that politics are starting to move the ways of television show drama...The medial is focusing on scandal and fueds more than substance...Well, this is all smoke and mirrors. There to hide what is really going on..

The POWERS THAT BE runs this country, perhaps the world. They are made up of the oldest and wealthiest families in the worlds...It has been this way from the beginning of civilization, just getting more sophisticated as time goes on...They can sell any story to the public, because we are ready to follow like sheep...As, long as we have our best country in the world...If you think about it, it is a small price to pay for our pleasure....

The conspiracy theories are based on fact and evidence..It has always been a battle between the POWERS THAT BE, and the people that are aware...But the POWERES THAT BE, have unlimited resources, and are able to smear the truth...Give just enough, to make people take it, even when they know it isnt the truth...

Does anyone truely understand the reason for the national archives..They control and release information for about 80 years after the fact...They do this for one main reason..After 80 years most of the people emotional involvded are dead. Pretty smart I guess...It will come out in the near future, that we never made it to the moon...Truth be known, it was a way to funnel money to Black OPs, and save face for our Country

In life and the natural order of things, everything makes sense...The only thing that doesnt make sense is the Government...I am not saying the Government isnt necessary, I am saying that they need to get a little more sophisticated in there story telling...Our public technology has grown to the point that we can start to put cracks in the governments armor..This is why the Moon Landing is gaining more momentum..We now have the technology to test the weakness of what they sold us back then.

As far as the Towers go, I dont truely know the motive...I am not going to pretend I do..But, I will say that someone or some organization gained...More than likely it is a group or organization on our own soil....

Answer 3

No my fine feathered friend they - the great "they" do not want a fair open inquiry into the events leading to durring and imedieately after 9/11

The fact that terrorists in the past have always acted in small speratic fashions and the events of 9/11 show a highly cordinated military percision team able to cordinate to the second if not the split second a chain of events that no rag tag team like alQuaida could have pulled off should give you a picture of reality that day.

The questions you should be asking are
Was Bush the front man or on the inside ?
If Bush was either who/where are the rest of the players ?
What was the objective and how many phases does this objective have? Decades long ?

If the US government or a faction thereof killed 3,000 of it's own people then - what will they stop at to gain the objective ? How safe is it to ask these questions ?

If you find out let me know - All I can do as I suspect all you can do is guess.

The US wanted in to the middle east - it got in It wanted control of the oil fields it got that just about the time that scientists said oil output was supposed to peak - It is conjectured that in or around 2005 oil would begin to decline but they could never agree on how fast - maybe a pint a week less maybe a quick halt They weren't sure - nor were they sure the theory was completely acurate - the report dropped out of vougue a few years latter (mid 70's)
The world population is predicted to top 10 billion by 20-somthing tey same scientists say that we will need 4 earths to match sonsumption by 2050 Time to thin the herd ?
It is also said that the only fish left should be bottom feeders as we will have eaten the entirety of the Ocean's bigger fish if present consumption continued .....

What ever it is Or isn't as the case may be it will be big - I mean BIG -

I hope I am dead by then with any luck death by old age.

Selfish yes pragmatic yes likely no not really

Answer 4

So forming another commission for the sole purpose of looking at this "evidence," would make it unbiased? The exact opposite is probably true. If the commission were formed just to look at that of course it would have an agenda, like all these collegiate "panels" on 9/11 that always fall apart into conspiracy nonsense. Can I ask you believers of the conspiracy how our government was able to get al-Qaeda to enthusiastically claim responsibility and even to this day consider 9/11 to be the greatest shot ever made against America? Oops, I forgot that al-Qaeda and bin Laden are CIA operatives, who, in beween engineering AIDS and proliferating crack through ghettos decided to destroy the WTC. And since I can only see points 1, 3, 7 and 8 while I'm typing I will only refute those points without the help of any "unbiased" website, only common sense.
1- If this evidence, gathered by the same agencies who said Iraq had WMDs, is true then we obviously mis identified the hijacker and simply need to put the correct name with who was on board the flight a flew it into the the North tower, unless the airplane that hit the North Tower was a hologram.
3- What obfuscation? Everyone has seen the several home videos showing Hani on a Pentagon suicide bomber simulation flight rig. Seriously, you are saying someone is too poor a pilot to do something, crashing a plane, that would normally be considered a trait of a poor pilot. LOL
7- I have never heard that the difference between the fires was substantial at all. The fires gain more significance when you look at where they were. The first plane hit near the top, meaning that the deforming steel did not have nearly as much pressure as the second tower, which was hit much lower, nearly tripling the weight that this continually weakening steel had to support. So at the moment of the collapse of the South tower the norths affected steal was weaker, but since it only had to support a third of the weight it lasted longer.
8- Small localized fires? Yes, several floors of fire in a huge building could be called that. I'm no structural engineer but I'm willing to bet that WTC 7 was never designed to have all that steel crashing down upon and around it. Buildings are not invincible, all that shaking can have very damaging effects, coupled with about 8 hours of very hot fires, could easily have brought it down. This has always been the weirdest aspect of 9/11 conspiracies for me. Looking at several such websites the "evidence" they give is that suddenly, without warning the building started to collapse, and seconds later it was a pile of ruble. just yahoo WTC 7 and read some of this stuff. That is what happens when a building collapses, its called a pancake effect, and it does not require controlled demolitions. Thats just the tip of the iceberg for some of this nonsense.

I encourage people to research this stuff because the more you read it, the more ridiculous it all becomes.

Answer 5

Hi Gabriel,

Nice bunch of facts. To bad our Congress rubber stamped the sham commissions recommendations.
I believe WE THE PEOPLE can effect change in the people we vote into Congress to do what it takes to bring the real criminals to justice so much has been taken for granted. I like MasterPlumbers heart felt observance of the truth amidst the din of the ignorant MEME's that continue to spread a the GWB regimes lie.

38. Senator Bob Graham also said: "High officials in [the Saudi Arabian] government, who I assume were not just rogue officials acting on their own, made substantial contributions to the support and wellbeing of two of these terrorists and facilitated their ability to plan, practise and then execute the tragedy of September 11." These investigations remain blocked, classified, covered-up and unresolved to this day by the Bush administration's clear Obstruction of Justice.
39. Senator and 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned, saying: "This is the most serious independent investigation since the Warren Commission. And after watching History Channel shows on the Warren Commission last night, the Warren Commission blew it. I'm not going to be part of that. I'm not going to be part of looking at information only partially. I'm not going to be part of just coming to quick conclusions. I'm not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that. I'm not going to be part of that. This is serious."
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Answer 6

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Answer 7

well I hate to tell you this, but you have left out some very important facts.
1) I was watching on tv as this happened and I almost,, well 50% sure, that I seen my dog fly across the sky just moments before the 3 rd plane hit the Eiffel tower
2) probably,at least,hypothesis,should not have,maybe, might, could have,theory,---all these words are pretty but dont mean ****

Answer 8

Everyone should watch "Loose Change" an excellent movie about 9/11. All facts that no one can argue. Bush's words used against him without it being skewed. People should be more cautious of information that is fed to them instead of being ignorant and believing what is easiest to believe or what has been nicely planned. Bush assumes Americans are idiots and lazy asses who will never contest to what he says. Unfortunately....his plan worked and he is right. DON'T BE AFRAID TO QUESTION YOUR GOVERNMENT!!

Answer 9

We should but no one will listen to our want....cause, using this 9/11 card, Bush is playing game all over the world....Iraq, Afganistan, Lebanon, Pakistan....and more and more. Hope our child's age, some one will really investigate and get out the truth.

Answer 10

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keep up the good work.