Not a Stupid Question whatsoever.
Jump starting ANYTHING with ANYTHING is a bit tricky,,,
and always dangerous.
Be absolutely certain that Polarity is Correct.
#1 RULE:Positive to Positive,,,Negative to Negative.
A Mistake can cause an extremely violent explosion,,,serious injury,,,even possibly Death.
A Battery Explosion is a Hydrogen Powered Hand-grenade
#2 RULE: Use a 12 Volt Jump-Source for a 12Volt Battery
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It makes absolutely NO Difference that a motorcycle's charging system OutPut and Battery Amp Rating is LESS than that of a typical Car for purpose of jump starting.
Electrical Devices ONLY draw current according to their OWN DEMAND,,,
Not whatsoever according to the Capacity of the Supply.
Your home for example has 100 Amp or 200 Amp service.
Most branch circuits are on 20 Amp breakers
Your 60Watt LightBulbs for example,,,
are therefore running
on 60W X 110 Volts.
That's 1/2 AMP Load,,,
on a 20 AMP Breaker,,
on a 100 AMP or more Power Source.
Your lights do not explode everytime you turn on the switch,,do they?
A STOPLIGHT Bulb is about 35Watts /12 Volts.
Thats a little under 3 AMPS.
Powered by 9~12~15 +++Amp Batteries in Bikes,,,
And same bulb is powered by 60~80 Amp Batteries in Cars
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You asked about JUMP-STARTING
Not Battery Charging.
That's 2 entirely different situations.
When done Properly ,,Jump Starting a Bike from a Car is perfectly fine.
CHARGING a battery is done according to an entirely different set of Electrical Laws.
Batteries can easily be damaged from Overcharging---
Charging at Too High a RATE of Charge,,,aka "Too Fast".
The Higher Output of a Car's Charging System is waaaay too strong to Charge a Motorcycle Battery SAFELY.
It will cause them to Overheat,,,and VERY Possibly Explode.
HERE's where a Large part of the Confusion and Misunderstanding stem from.
When you JUMP START a Battery,,,
It also tries to "Charge" the Battery if there's Any Excess Current Source Capacity.
A Car's average 60 Amp Battery would charge a 10 Amp Bike Battery from ZERO to FULL in 5 Minutes or Less.
(Forget the MATH calc that implies a 10minute Charge time---the extreme RATE exagerates the time out of proportions of Recommended Rates/Time....it ZAPS the Batt,rather than merely charging it)
Ideally,,,Bike Batts should not be charged any faster than about 1 Amp/Hour
Which is 10 HOURS at 1 Amp,,for a 10Amp Battery.
10Hours vs 5Minutes,,,,,see what I mean about TOO FAST?
Sorta like;
You CAN Toast Bread Perfectly with a Blow Torch,,
But you gotta limit Exposure Time to mere SECONDS.
It will go from raw bread to Charcoal REAL QUICK.
But the TEMPERATURE of a Blow Torch and aToaster Filament is NOT much different.
It's the VOLUME of HEAT,,,not the Temp.
Therefore the Issue is EXPOSURE TIME.
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If You ever NEED to Jump start a Bike from a Car,,,,
**Leave Car turned OFF so it's supplying BATTERY POWER ONLY,,
and NOT it's Charging System(which is a Huge Volume of Juice)
** Make Absolutely CERTAIN You have the cables connected Correctly.
Dont "THINK ya have them right"
Dont GUESS
Dont take Any Chance.
Be Absolute Certain it's RIGHT.
**Do NOT leave the cables Connected more than a Minute or 2.
It WILL try to "charge" the weaker,smaller battery at a rate which will overheat it
----Be Prepared to Start It soon as Cables are Connected
----Disconnect the Cables as soon as it Starts,,,or if it Doesnt start in a MINUTE or so.
(Literally a 60second minute,,,,not a figurative "minute")
If it Doesn't start "Immediately",,,,
Disconnect the Cables and at least WAIT 5 minutes or so.
This lefts the Battery cool down from any possible overcharge.
1 or 2 Tries is all I'd reccomend,,,
IF it's gonna start,,it'll start by then.
Continuing to Try to Start it when it Wont ,
can cause problems because Bike's Batt WILL overheat faster than you realize.
One other thing for SAFETY,,if at all possible....
*Connect POSITIVE cable 1st
* Connect NEGATIVE cable to Bike 2nd
*LASTLY---Connect Negative Cable to a GROUND POINT,,like Engine,,,on the Car.
AWAY from the Battery.
That gives you some distance to Prevent igniting any battery fumes,,,and some distance to avoid injury.
Doing so enables you to be Away from Both Batteries,,,and even turn your back to them,
Only focusing on the "remote ground" to connect the cable.
This ain't a perfect world,,,sometimes we GOTTA do stuff we'd rather not do.
Like Jump Starting...ANYTHING.
Your Best Hope is in knowing the Facts and Correct Procedures,,understanding the risks,,,and being CERTAIN to do things Correctly.
Hope that Helps
2007-04-07 11:31:37
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answered by Anonymous
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Remove the battery from the car. (Reason is complicated, as you did not ask, I will not put it in here.) Use both jumper wires on the battery since you will not get a good ground on anyplace on a bike. (Chrome, paint, etc.) Make sure you have a good connection to the terminals, and are not touching anything else with the jumper cables. (Hard on some bikes.) Let the connection sit for a few moments, then turn on the bikes power. See if your headlight is brighter than before. (Good way to guage battery power with no equipment.) If it is, then try to start the 'ol gal.
If you get her going, ride it for at least 20 miles to get a charge in the battery. This won't help if the battery is shot. If you get a clicking noise after riding, the battery has had it. Time to drop about $90 on a gel battery. Don't forget to put the battery back in the car! Good luck, and watch out for Mr. Harley Tech. He has no clue.
2007-04-07 10:07:11
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answered by rifleman01@verizon.net 4
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