I posted a question earlier on about woman fighting in the front line and i was berated?

Question

when woman join our forces why are they not allowed to serve in infantry units? they crave equal rights and equality in the work place are we breaking the law by denying them their rights then. whats good for the goose springs to mind !

Already i am getting flak. answer me this if it was announced tommorow there was a change in a employment law that men were to get an extra payment for doing a specific male task they would be up in arms about equality would they not? and yes i would be proud if my wife ,sister aunt or niece decided to join a infantry unit ano it would be wrong to prevent them

Already i am getting flak. answer me this if it was announced tommorow there was a change in a employment law that men were to get an extra payment for doing a specific male task they would be up in arms about equality would they not? and yes i would be proud if my wife ,sister aunt or niece decided to join a infantry unit ano it would be wrong to prevent them

Answer 1

Yes, women only want equal rights when it suits them. Open the door for women, phew! Open it yourself you lazy boot, equal rights remember! Also women only car insurance. Thats sexist against men, do we bother? NO! Women would bother if a mens only car insurance came up, hell yeh. I say send them to war. If they want equal rights then they also have to learn to pee standing up. Women probably cant shoot straight anyway. So give them a frying pan on the front line.

Answer 2

Hi,

The problem is that not all women are suitable.

For example, when the US Marines gave training tests to women for infantry roles, 60% of the female recruits could not throw a grenade far enough to avoid being injured.

So yes, some women can do it, but not all ... therefore the decidion has to be taken on an individual basis, and this makes it harder!

I personally think women can do 90% of the jobs in the army men can do, but front-line airborne roles are probably out, likewise special forces ... for exsmple, during WWII the Soviet Army that destroyed the German Salient at Kursk was something like 20% women ... plus they hade women bomber and fighter pilots!

I´ll probably be lambasted for that!

Answer 3

James...

I suppose you are berated by the boo boohoo crowd by those men & women you support equal rights for women without exception....except for the exceptions THEY determine. Legal or not. One of my favorites is that the majority of women I have known want full access to the world of construction and it's good pay...access to every job! But when they can't handle the jack hammer, can't meet the production a man does they want to be the safety person who holds the stop & go flags while trucks or equipment move....but they want to be paid the jack hammer rate for being flag holder. Their rational....it's not my fault I can't handle that big heavy hammer but I want the money I didn't earn any way.

Yep, equal pay for equal work......as long as they gey the equal pay with out the equal work.

NOTE TO Objunigw....: Your answer displays how lazyyou are. James said in the details of his question that he would be proudto have the female members of his family serve in the INFANTRY. Tah means the front line, combat, hi possibility of getting shot and killed. But you just ignore his information and the and then make a dumbass respones to the effectthat he wouldn't want his wife, daughter....on the front line. Why don't you deleate you answer since it was just an attempt to get 2 points without thinking. Not the 1st time for .you I bet.

Answer 4

it incredibly is a sturdy question, which, regrettably, we would possibly no longer understand the answer to. I do think of that lots of the time it incredibly is becuase womens' bodies are distinctive than men (scientific fact) and it may desire to be because of the fact they could no longer have the potential to maintain up with the bigger men. there is that, and there is the very fact they could be assigned faraway from the place all the combating is, because of the fact they are not depended directly to serve on the front line with the boys while lives are at stake. it is my theory, i do no longer understand if it is authentic for a fact. My brother instructed me they did no longer even provide females a raffle interior the specific ops. i do no longer understand the distinction between units, so it may desire to be distinctive everywhere

Answer 5

This issue goes far beyond equality and "upper strength" and the "women can't shoot theory."

Logistically, with all of the rules about showering and sleeping quarters, it would be a nightmare to incorporate females in combat arms units which depend on being light, mobile, and efficient. For example, most women do not want to shower with men and vice verse, so are our units to carry two sets of portable showers? And is shower time to be divided up between men and women. That is innefficient and can mean the difference between winning and loosing.

Also, we cannot afford to give the enemy an opportunity to use our females against us. How this works is that armies are trained to kill the women first. If the injure one of our females, the males, by instict will turn to defend and protect her. This turns the mission into "protect the famale" and limits the will and resources to continue on to achieve the original objectives. This has been documented in almost every military, including the US, where femals have been engaged in combat.

Also, psycologically females are predisposed (by the expectations of society throughout their whole lives) to react differently than males under pressure. Some females are able to overcome it, most are not. How do you determine or separate out fairly which ones are not.

The military works out of necessity. Our training and doctorine are born out of experience and lessons learned. When people's lives and freedom depend on us, we cannot afford to fail because we are trying to be fair or politically correct. To be successful in anything, it is imperative that people learn to cut the bulls*** and do what needs to be done.

Answer 6

For the information of people who don't think women are suitable for front line fighting I suggest you read about the soviet army in WWII many of the best snipers were women and and one woman alone killed over 80 Germans.I don't mean to be insulting but some of the females I have seen in uniform are are lot bigger and more intimidating then some of the men.I am an ex serviceman and I can go along with the male servicemans objections but it it isnt as cut and dried as saying they are'nt physically up to it.

Answer 7

In Israel, all woman from the age of 18 have to do National Service, unless they are pregnant or mothers with children. They are trained just the same as the men, and are expected to fight on the front line if needed. Women have already fought on the frontline in Israel in previous wars with their neighbours, and served with distinction.

Answer 8

That's the best way in the world to let the enemy have the
upper hand...for a squadron of men to have their minds on anything other than their mission. Even 'wimpy men' have
fantacies the same as 'macho he-men' do, so with women
in the squadron, it is natural for fantacies to run wild...
made manifest or not! The result is not having the mind
on the mission and the enemy has the upper hand...'spoils
go to the victor'...most likely the victor in this instance is the enemy!

Answer 9

I think that the mistake you are making is to see recruitment into the armed forces for front-line duty as just another job. It isn't, and it is taking the God of equal opportunities too far. Men and women are morally equal, but are not the same, and we also have to consider what is appropriate for society generally.

One of the main reasons why women should not be in the combat zone, is that it undermines the operational effectiveness of the male combatants. The very presence of females significantly alters the behaviour of men toward each other. Instead of working together as a close knit team, watching each others backs because their lives depend on it, they are inclined to compete with each other for the attention of females, and are also much more likely to be unduly concerned for the welfare of female recruits. This is particularly so if relationships have developed between male/female. A recently retired female major who had men under her command, although I don't know in what capacity, admitted in a newspaper article that women should not serve on the frontline. Her reasons included the point I have referred to above, but she went on to say that they don't have the same appetite for the fight as the men, and they are not as physically able as the men. They can't carry the same loads on their backs and can't march as far. That is why, to their shame, the army reduced the weight of the load that they were required to march with, and probably made other concessions as well. The other very important point that she made was that females with children back home are unable to focus on the job in hand because of constantly thinking about them. This is coming from her, not me. She had to learn what I believe is common sense.

I also wonder what sort of message it sends out to wider society when we train our young women to be killers. Aren't they supposed to be the caring nurtering sex? Would women be just as keen to kill other women, if the enemy had significant female combatants? I doubt it somehow. Also, men join the army partly to serve their country, but also, surely, because it is a macho world which compliments their testosterone driven aggression, and provides an outlet for it. It makes them feel more like men. What a kick in the teeth, and the regiment, when they are told, here come the girls. The enemy are also more likely to want to capture female combatants.

I think that you will continue to be berated if you insist on seeing front-line operations as just another job. Incidently, at the time of joining up, it may seem like a nice little number, until you are asked to lay your life on the line. You have to admit, in different arenas of life, women will argue that children need their mothers more than their fathers. True, until it becomes an inconvenient truth.

'Franktur' is referring to one female sniper. A lttle like the fish that got away, it gets bigger with the telling. But sniping using second world war rifles, is very different to todays front-line combat.

Answer 10

Women are not physically or emotionally equipped to be on the front line of any battlefield..They can scream and shout as much as they like but that is a fact