Is it possible for 8*n-3 to be a perfect square?
2007-04-06
18:28:45
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robert
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For all you people who say yes, give me a proof! Any idiot can say "oh, yeah, that's a perfect square." If it is, give me a value for n. Otherwise your answer is completely useless!
2007-04-06
19:01:54 ·
update #1
u4--very nice, thank you.
2007-04-06
20:11:45 ·
update #2
No, assuming that you mean n must be a positive integer.(Otherwise, n could be 19/8, etc.)
If 8n-3 is a perfect square for some positive integer n, then 3+z^2 must be divisible by 8 for some positive integer z.
Now note that the remainder of 3+z^2 divided by 8 is equal to the remainder of 3+(z+4)^2=3+z^2+8z+16 divided by 8, since 8z+16 is always divisible by 8, and thus will not contribute to a remainder.
So this means the remainder of 3+z^2 repeats every for every four values of z in sequence!
This is easiest illustrated in a table:
z __z^2+3__ remainder
1 ___4___ 4
2 ___7___ 7
3 ___12___ 4
4 ___19___ 3
5 ___28___ 4
6 ___39___ 7
7 ___52___ 4
8 ___67___ 3
9 ___84___ 4
....
(___ used to space out numbers since yahoo kills extra spaces.)
You can see the pattern for the remainder is 4,7,4,3.
Since none of the first 4 remainders are zero, it follows by induction that the remainder will never be zero, so 3+z^2 will never be divisible by 8, and thus, 8n-3 will never be a perfect square.
2007-04-06 19:06:35
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answer #1
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answered by Global_Investor 3
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others have provided ans and let me provide a simpiler one
a number is of the form 2k or 2k+1
8n-3 is odd so we can take 2k+1
now (2k+1)^2 + 3 = 4k^2+ 4k + 1+ 3
= 4k(k+1) + 4
1st term is divisible by 8 as either n or n+1 is odd.
so above number divided by 8 leaves a remainder 4
so (2k+1)^3+ 3 is not divisible by 8
so 8n-3 cannot be a perfect square
2007-04-07 05:25:00
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answer #2
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answered by Mein Hoon Na 7
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yes it's a perfect square
2007-04-07 01:49:00
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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No because the answer will always be prime or not a square.
2007-04-07 01:32:37
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answer #4
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answered by ilikemath2002 3
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8n-3=k^2, k=natural number
it has not any answer in natural numbers.
The residue of k on 8 can be 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7.
The residue of k^2 on 8 can be 0,1,4,1,0,1,4,1.
The residue of k^2 + 3 on 8 can be just 3,4,7.
it means that it has not answer, it has always residue.
2007-04-07 02:55:48
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answer #5
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answered by raheleh 2
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no it's not possible
(8*1-3=5
8*2-3=13
8*3-3=21
and so on)
it will always come to be a prime no.
2007-04-07 03:20:28
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answer #6
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answered by diya 1
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Only if n is not constrained to integer values.
2007-04-07 01:49:54
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answered by Helmut 7
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