What makes cons think Lincoln was a right-wing conservative?

Question

Let's see:

- He came up with first income tax.
- He believed labor was superior to capital. Theodore Roosevelt, PROGRESSIVE Republican, quoted him on that and expected to be called a communist after he said it
- He exchanged correspondence with Karl Marx in which Marx congratulated Lincoln on his re-election and supported his war agains the South as part of the worker's revolution
- Karl Marx wrote another letter to Johnson over Lincoln's assasination. He called Lincoln one of the rare men who succeeded in becoming great without ceasing to be good.
- The party he belonged to was referred by southerners as the "Radical Republican Party" because they thought they were being too tough with them over reconstruction.
- This Radical Republican Party was based in the socially liberal northeast and led by such men as Charles Sumner from MASSACHUSETTS (not Alabama).

- According to neo-confederate conservatives, the Party of Lincoln was infested with socialists and outight communists.
http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/LincolnPutsch.html

- He has been called the "American Lenin" by other neo-confederates
http://www.lneilsmith.org/abelenin.html

- He expanded the power of the federal government over the states.

PLEASE NEOCONS, TELL ME HOW LINCOLN WAS A BIBLE THUMPING, STATE RIGHTS, LIMITED GOVERNMENT CONSERVATIVE?

NEO-CONFEDERATE ON LINCOLN

I was reading some articles online and came across some pro-northern writings by the father of communist thugs and big centralized government himself, Karl Marx. Marx, it turns out, was one of the north's biggest advocates and defenders in the British newspapers during the 1860's. He also thought very highly of Lincoln. Perhaps the most shocking thing about it all is the strong similarities between the arguments Marx put forth on behalf of the north in the 1860's and the arguments the Lincoln defenders put forth today. They are often identical! See for yourself -

http://www.shucks.net/shucks/40.htm

Wolf,

What makes me think cons think that? People like socialD. I bring up an issue about the left-wing versus the right-wing and socialD makes the mistake of thinking the Republican Party was always synonymous with conservatism and the South.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArLRNJ1VwJxlYh5RV8rzOhDY7BR.?qid=20070406133627AAY4oGa

Answer 1

He was a hero, and they need to claim an historic hero for their own. If they mischaracterize Lincoln, so what, they create their own reality.

Answer 2

Good observation.

At some point in history, around the first two decades of the 20th century, the Republican and Democrat Parties appeared to have exchanged their policies.

Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, brought us into WWI. However, he was an endorser of the League of Nations, of which the U.S. never belonged to.

FDR, known as the modern "founder" of the Democratic Party, pushed for many government-supported economic reforms, including the overseeing of big business via the creation of the SEC and the New Deal.

Conservative-appearing Harry S.Truman pushed the A-Bomb button twice; but he also was a reformist president.

Thus, although the Republican's first president was Lincoln, Lincoln today would run on the Democrat ticket; maybe with Obama.

Answer 3

Manifest Destiny under the "Homestead Acts." Yeah. He was such a nice man, with strong moral values! The Emancipation Proclamation only freed Confederate Slaves, not American Slaves, which is an act of hypocrisy, rather than charity. Lincoln waged economic war on the behalf of wealthy industrialists, to secure cheap resources at the expense of less fortunate agrarians. What a guy! I wish I could be like him! *false cheesy grin* NOT!

Answer 4

Abraham Lincoln was born in 1809. He married Mary Todd and had four sons, Robert Todd Lincoln, Edward Baker Lincoln, and William Thomas “Tad” Lincoln. Edward died at infancy, William died at age eleven, and Tad at eighteen. Robert was the only one who made it to adulthood. Lincoln was a Republican and the sixteenth president of the United States. He was president during the Civil War, which lasted from 1861-1865. He was the first Republican to be president.

Lincoln helped end slavery and helped keep the U.S. from separating during the war. He made many speeches and never seemed to grow bitter during one of the bloodiest and difficult wars ever. He wrote the Gettysburg and presented it in Gettysburg during the war. When first elected he was practically unknown. He received less than forty percent of the popular vote. But by 1865 he was thought to be equal to Washington.

Answer 5

Did you ever ask your self how an aw shucks, truthful, u . s . guy like Lincoln were given to be President? properly, it really is for an same reason Dubya Bush were given in, advertising, money, and capacity. Lincoln turned right into a company lawyer for the Illinois significant Railroad. He climbed to prominence by technique of arguing some substantial situations that gave huge quantities of money and land to the railroads. He became put in the White domicile because the ICR knew he ought to shill for them at the same time as pleasing to the undemanding guy inclusive of his supposedly all the way down to earth personality. Sound like everybody you comprehend? Lincoln dragged the full u . s . right into a terrible war that killed over 600K individuals and left 0.5 of the country in ruins. The war began over his proposed fee lists, fee lists that would damage the South and placed money into the coffers of his loved ICR. His Emancipation Proclamation turned right into a ploy. He signed it in the midst of the war and it suggested that each and each and everybody the slaves south of the Mason Dixon line were loose. He became hoping the slaves ought to upward thrust antagonistic to their masters. It wasn't until eventually after the war that the Northern slaves (and there have been many) were given their freedom. Lincoln has many characteristics like this that the Republican have spun and propagandized to make him look like the hero he wasn't. seem in any respect the Reagan idolatry. it really is merely advertising and PR. Lincoln became the worst kind of human, a social mountain climbing company shill who coated his ambition and subservience to wealth with a folksy attraction. A liberal ought to in no way declare Lincoln. he's merely the first and between the worst Republicans we had in this u . s ..

Answer 6

Excellent, Lincoln wrote single handily the Emancipation Proclamation that is the first draft for Civil Rights and a Liberal foundation. Neocons don't get it that Lincoln was as Liberal as you can get.

Answer 7

historical ignorance would prompt anyone to say that, liberal or conservative.
i am a southerner and i will answer that. in richmond virginia there is a bronze statue of abraham lincoln. southern does not equal ignorant. william faulkner should indicate something, as well as the large number of southern born presidents that fall into both political parties.

Answer 8

lincoln was the liberal of his day.

but cons, especially southern ones cherish the myth that lincoln is lionized in the south.

odd though, whenever i ask where all of the statues of lincoln are located in the south, no one ever answers...

Answer 9

It is not real conservatives that think that. It is the group think FOB's (followers of Bush) who are misled to believe all sorts of untrue and false assertions.

Answer 10

Thanks for that interesting post. I'm always glad to learn new, interesting facts about ex-Presidents. I pretty much ignore anyone who posts "facts" off of the Limpjaw Hour or the Insanity Tour.