I saw a political debate programme on TV years ago and they started to talk about the St Georges flag. This black politician said that the St Georges flag should be banned because he has always associated it with racism. His comments annoyed me that much that I have never forgotten about it.
During the last world cup, a passing policeman asked me to take my flag out of my window because it may upset the local ethnic minorities.
Also, my friend is now a policeman, and in the canteen at the station where he is based, they are not allowed to ask for black or white coffee. They have to say coffee, with or without milk!
Is any of this right? I would love to know the opinions of ethnic minorities living in england...... and of course, what do the other white english people think. Is the St Georges flag really offensive? Or like me, do you think we are going to far with political correctness?!
2007-04-05 22:42:26 · 20 answers · asked by Emma E 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Other - Cultures & Groups
Hey Indy500, sounds like a top night out. Where do you live? I'm in Stockport, Manchester. Don't suppose you're nearby?
2007-04-05 22:59:08 · update #1
Kenygurl..... I'm offended that you think I vote BNP. I wouldn't vote for them if I was paid to!
And it's true about the policeman. He knocked on ever door in my street that had the flag up!
This is exactly my point. It's so ridiculous that people can't even believe it's true!!
2007-04-05 23:33:46 · update #2
It's bloody outrageous that you should be asked to take your own country's flag down in your own country. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I have the Italian flag in my window, and no one asks me to take that down. If they did I'd tell them to take a hike.
As for the coffee thing, that is just plain ridiculous. I got told off for using the phrase "That's the pot calling the kettle black" to another (white) colleague. It's got to the point where the normal use of our language is subject to pointless and counterproductive do-goodery. These people are just off the planet. Where do they get off, trying to change the way we have always spoken? This sort of thing will only make people less tolerant, not more tolerant.
I'm not racist and I don't vote BNP either. But I will fight for the right for anyone to fly their own flag and speak their own language as they have always done.
2007-04-06 00:57:20 · answer #1 · answered by Cosimo )O( 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Political correctness goes so far it become politically incorrect.
The policeman who asked you to take the flag down, actually offended you.
The issue with black, or white coffee is ridiculous, for several reasons. People are not black or white, (though there are a few close to black) And tea or coffee is never white.
The policeman had no right to ask you to remove the flag.
The brown politician was only giving his reason for not liking the St Georges flag, he is allowed to have that opinion, but not many people would agree with him.
There is nothing wrong with the St George's flag, it is true some racist people use it, but we cannot let them devalue the English flag which represents English people everywhere.
2007-04-05 23:04:10 · answer #2 · answered by Sprinkle 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have fought in Bosnia with the union jack on my shoulder so I do consider myself English to the core. I do not find the St George flag offencives I do however find some of the people who adopt the flag offensive and I do think that politicians who take on the view that the flag is a racist sign gives power to racist who use it.
I am fully aware of the history of the flag, it was taken to the crusade as the flag of the invading Europeans who did their best to kill any none white in the country, but we must not forget that it is a national flag of England and to tell people that they can't fly it during world cups, St Georges day etc alienates these people and courses the tension which many people who pass these local laws seek to stop.
What happens when these laws are enforced is that you brand normal people racist. You give scum like the BNP vocal opportunities to gather support and you defeat yourself and encourage racists.
2007-04-05 22:58:49 · answer #3 · answered by john d 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i am Scottish living in England and my daughters hang their St George's flag out of the window when it's Europe or the world cup (i'm desperate to hang the Scotland one with it but we never qualify!) I to live in england so why would I be offended by an english flag?
2007-04-06 00:53:16 · answer #4 · answered by ally 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Never hear of white coffee,lets see if you was a Jew and seen people driving around with a flag that shout Racism at it best and you know what that flag mean because you seen a lots of Hate group showing it off,of if you was in 9/11 and you see a lots of Muslim showing off a flag about us here in the State that will upset many that lost family in 9/11.
To stop any kind of Hate group from doing this again we must stop the source before it get to big. The Flag is not the problem
it the meaning of the Flag. I am from Georgia I never knew what that flag mean but as I got older and seen picture of the KKK with it. All I can say is this hate,hate and more hate just like 9/11 people group and that is scary.
2007-04-05 22:51:33 · answer #5 · answered by Linda 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I think it's really boring looking. But then again, there aren't really any creative flags in all of Europe except for Great Britiain and I guess the Wales flag, but you never show that one. Better hope Scottland and England never separate or your flags will just look like the evil inverted twins of Finland and Denmark's.
2007-04-05 22:55:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Its political correctness gone mad,We bend over backwards not to offend anybody to the point of stupidity.Take the nursery rhyme Bah Bah black sheep thing now its Bah Bah rainbow sheep.Who the hell has seen a rainbow sheep i would think anybody of a coloured black ground would of thought that was madness.
There is nothing wrong with displaying the flag of your country what ever it maybe especially if you are in that country at the time.
2007-04-05 23:06:05 · answer #7 · answered by whospiltmypint 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Nothing wrong with the Flag of ST George. The English, all English need to embrace it more. take it back from the racist.
2007-04-06 02:21:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
because England has a wide inhabitants compared to Scotland and Wales, a GB or uk crew ought to really be an English crew. football is lengthy conventional in the united kingdom and not one of the domicile countries prefer to lose their communities. human beings in Britain mainly imagine of themselves as English, Scottish and Welsh first extremely than British. So England performs with the britain flag etc. also in the Olympics i have self assurance Britain does no longer enter a football crew because of controversy over who ought to play.
2016-12-03 09:24:41 · answer #9 · answered by mayze 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is the flag of my country and flies over my house with pride and nobody, including ethnic minorities, is offended by it. And I find it extremely patronising to black people that the PC brigade think it's offensive to ask for a black or white coffee.
To the thumb downing moron, my son-in-law is black and English. He has his own St George flag.
2007-04-05 22:50:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋