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there would have been a creation of all that is and prior to that there would have been nothing, no creation? If all we have is nothing then "God" must have existed prior to this nothing, thus creating nothing within itself and so displacing itself into that nothin as it would have had nwhere else to go? I am in a rush, bad grammer and such please disregard

2007-04-05 05:07:48 · 13 answers · asked by jonas_tripps_79 2 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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if there was nothing prior to existence than your argument is flawed. The very concept of nothing excludes anything that 'is', even god. For his being means that nothing is in fact something. In fact, that argument posed by every major religion has shown to logically result in an infinite regress.

So the next logical step is to state God did not create anything, but instead everything has always existed, including god. This allows for existence and a supreme being to coexist. It also makes sense out of the otherwise irrational argument of christianity - who claims that there was at one point nothing - God created existence - and then afterlife we goto heaven or hell for eternity.

In order for there to be an eternity, that means there was no beginning, where you imply infinity, you imply there is no beginning or end, everything just always 'is'.

2007-04-05 05:18:11 · answer #1 · answered by aristotle1776 4 · 1 0

It could not be the rush that contributed to the 'bad grammar' (not that bad after all, since the meaning is clear), more than the 'issue' involved ! Such questions, when intense within does cause some spill over of confusion in the question. Not that elaboration was warranted. The very nature of the question 'contains' a bit of its answer !
Please try to consider for argument sake a possibility that there exists a level of perception which is deeper than the sensory levels.... Then the very logic which forms the basis of this question seems to crumble ! It is another matter that the question, the questioner etc would eventually dissolve into the creator, to love and experience the timelessness, whereby this question would then become redundant, since the foundation of 'prior' and such 'human-mind-created-time-concept' would itself get dissolved !
It might be very difficult to really 'digest' this theory, since we are used to knowing everything only 'through' sense organs.

2007-04-09 04:09:57 · answer #2 · answered by Spiritualseeker 7 · 0 0

questions like this are going into murky territory.their are 2 major problems in this.

1.if god created everything,then it is likely that god is above or supersedes his creation,such as time[prior to creation]
creation[creation out of nothing],and even existence.thees constraints wouldn't have been hear until he made them.

2.from point one we can see that any god would be transcendent of at least some of our questions.

with thees ideas in mind,the subject of creation is not a subject of any fruitful answers.specifically,the debate that if the universe needs a creator so dose he and that if god do not need a creator then the universe doesn't.this is like looking at a pie to find out how a bomb is made.god transcends the need for a creator ,but we do not.

2007-04-05 11:59:08 · answer #3 · answered by the professor 2 · 0 0

Baffling, isn't it? I guess you have to be delusional to understand it, because they also think their "feelings in their heart" is proof of their God's existence, yet they don't consider the fact that people from all faiths have the exact same feelings. Somehow their feelings are real while the feeling of people from other faiths are simply deluded. Edit: "That cause must be something similar to what Christians call “God.”" No Camille, it "must" not be anything. It could simply be a vacuum fluctuation, or caused by the multiverse (cosmos). There is no reason to assume our universe is all that their is. It seems most reasonable for the cosmos to be infinite. Also, you are lobbying for a deist God in general and trying to use that as evidence for YOUR personal God. Edit: "You are just flat out wrong. There is no historical record of the dealings of the ancient Greek gods" Precisely and Keith said there was just as much evidence for your God (Zero), so he's right.

2016-05-17 22:55:33 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

While I don't personally believe in God, your logic is flawed. It assumes that we understand everything, including the nature of the universe. We certainly do not and it is arrogant to think we can classify such things according to our our piddly sciences. Some things are just still beyond our comprehension and trying to assign our laws to it just can't work. BUT just because we lack the comprehension, doesn't mean that there isn't some sort of logic to it all.

2007-04-05 06:23:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Replace your word "nothing" with "absence of the physical realm" and you would be close.

Creation is part of the limitations of space-time. There is a dimension called the eternal which is outside of these restraints. It is "timelessness".

Isaiah 57:15
For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: “ I dwell in the high and holy place,With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

2007-04-05 06:46:30 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

why should we be so self centered to think we are the only creation? why do we think there was ever "nothing" , do we even know there is one sole creator of all? or just perhaps one sole creator of this world, universe? i cant see how anyone could possibly know!

2007-04-05 05:24:45 · answer #7 · answered by dlin333 7 · 1 0

No, we cannot agree on that. Just giving a label like "God must have existed ..." to something we don't understand well does not have any explanatory power whatsoever.

2007-04-05 05:29:11 · answer #8 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Call it what you will, but would you call a force of nature, God?
Well maybe you would, but for most people they wouldn't.
Now maybe you're one of those that maybe confused by my answer, maybe not.
For those that are.
Would you worship the power of a waterfall the burning of fire or the blowing of the wind?
No you wouldn't..... so why do you worship a God?

2007-04-05 05:23:16 · answer #9 · answered by psych0bug 5 · 0 0

Dear dazed and confused. Write shorter sentences.

2007-04-05 05:20:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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