Do you realize it was those who outlawed abortion who made the courts get involved?

Question

For those who are anti abortion and argue that it is not the courts decision, do you realize it was those states that allowed girls to die in back alleys that got the courts involved?

Yeah, Norma was the only one they could get to stand up. I guess she really likes the spotlight...

Answer 1

It's stupid for anyone to argue that the courts should not have been involved.

Roe v. Wade was a lawsuit. Lawsuits are not voted on by the public; they are argued in a court of law. This case reached the Supreme Court on appeal. Roe isn't a piece of legislation; it's a court decision.

Answer 2

I guess it doesn't matter all that much how we got to court, as it does what the court said.

I have posted my views on abortion many times, as I have my views on Roe v Wade, which is to me a separate question. (Whether something should be legal or not is one thing, and the method by which the question is decided is another.)

Notwithstanding my extreme fatigue with the issue, I did want to post an idea that I can't seem to find a place for.

People say that "if abortion is made illegal, then it won't reduce the number of abortions." The response, which we've all heard, is "if murder is made legal, we'll still have murders too." We've all had these debates before.

But I remember something my college president once said. That where a law is not respected, it in effect is not a law. Meaning, it's on the books but not taken to heart by the people. He was speaking in terms of marijuana, but the same applies (to a degree) to abortion - but NOT to murder.

There is a VERY widespread consensus that murder is not only illegal but wrong, and should rightly be punished. But if there is NOT such a consensus, the law has little or no force. I don't know what the percentage of "dissenters" has to be, but clearly there's a sizeable portion, perhaps a majority (depending on how the question is asked) of the country, that favors legalized abortion.

So, although I have grave moral concerns about abortion, the counterargement about making other crimes legal never really carried much weight with me.

Not an answer to your question, I'm afraid. But perhaps useful in some other context, someday.

Answer 3

I am not saying it should be illegal as I dont think that that is the case. But you do realize Norma McCorvey , known as Jane Roe in the Roe vs Wade case, for the last 10 years or so has regretted pushing this case and has been working to undo Roe vs Wade.

Answer 4

What a crock!

The ones who made the S. Ct. get involved was the law-breaker who didn't make it to another state in time for her abortion.

States have the right, under the Constitution to make laws concerning the health, welfare and safety of their citizens. As long as there is no federal pre-emption of the matter.

EDIT: It is a total judicial legislation when there is no stare decisis (prior decision in the law) to support violating the separation of powers!

Answer 5

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Answer 6

For every girl who died in a back alley, as you say, due to a coat hanger, I'm guessing? She got there based on her own decisions. Of her own free will. She chose to have sex, unprotected, and then chose to get rid of the baby.
Why should I support a form of government protected birth control for someone who refuses to be responsible?

Answer 7

You presume that they realize anything, or that facts affect them. To the contrary! The anti-choice crowd will not be deterred by things so ineffectual as these "facts" you refer to!

Answer 8

lock the doors and people will look outside through the window.

Answer 9

You beg the question.

Answer 10

judge not least ye be judged