Taking hostages vs. dealing with enemy combatants is not a comparable situation.
2007-04-04 06:39:32
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answered by wizjp 7
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1) When the Iranians 'captured' British sailors they SAID they treated them kindly and humanely. Of course they treated them better than the inmates of Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo, but that's not difficult is it?
2) So what that Ahmedinejad shook hands with them? Jack Straw (foolishly) shook hands with Robert Mugabe - does that mean they're the best of buddies?
3) The Bush government is democratic - because democracy does not garuntee the will of the people is listened to. It garuntees that the people may elect people to represent them, not that these people will be responsible.
I don't care about your English mistakes either. What I do care about is your warped perception of right and wrong. You (assuming you ARE Iranian) DO NOT parade prisoners on TV. EVER. Even Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib inmate's faces are never shown. Even if the British sailors were committing a crime they are innocent until proven guilty. And that is quite aside from the fact that the Royal Navy has told, completely without international incident, the Iranian navy that they had strayed into Iraqi waters and they were told to turn back. That is the actions of a civilized nation - not political grandstanding.
2007-04-04 14:39:41
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answered by Mordent 7
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I am going to have to play "Devil's Advocate" on this one. and ask, what rights do enemy combatants get? I'm asking because I know the answer. The Geneva Convention does not include this group within their war-crimes doctrine. Al-Queda, and The Taliban do NOT represent a country, state, or any other version of a government. That is what is solely expressed in The Geneva Convention. So, the short answer is, they deserve nothing. Now, I'm not convinced this is the right answer. But, I didn't get to voice my opinion when The Geneva Convention was written. So all any of us can do is abide by the rules that ARE in The Geneva Convention. If Al Queda, and The Taliban want consideration in world government affairs, then GET, or ESTABLISH a government! Play by the rules! I believe the other posts in here, while they may be a little rude, have got it pretty close to correct. Don't ever believe anything you see on Iranian TV. Heck, don't believe anything you see on American TV either! As for President Bush, he may be in some trouble when his presidency is over. I have heard talk from people smarter than me, that he, and his administration may be guilty of war-crimes. I do not know the answer to this, but I am not privy to the information it would take to determine this. None of us are.
2007-04-12 12:19:35
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answered by kvnh2os 3
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Yes, Ahmedinajad knows how to be polite. So does Ahmadabad, Saad, Assad, Massad, Hassad, Mohamed, and all of the others. This mess has been created by Western lust for oil, and the Zionist influence in the US and Great Britain. If the West had left the Middle East alone, and had supported their own oil producers, those Middle Eastern people would still be running around on camels with spears.
2007-04-12 08:02:52
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answered by Anonymous
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There's no "kind" or "humane" way to capture people at gunpoint.. just like there's no way anyone in this country believes that the smiles and shaking hands were genuine.. even if they were..
We don't parade captured terrorists or taliban fighters in front of TV cameras and ask for explanations of their actions..
Guantanamo has NOTHING to do with Iran, it's America's deep seated fear that it's own legal system will rule AGAINST them in the event of any court appearances by the detainees in Cuba.. that's why they aren't in America.. not in jurisdiction of American law..
By the way.. Bush is less than "democratic" he's nothing but a slack-jawed texan oil baron that everyone hates the world over.. as for Ahmedinajad, he's obviously having fun in his role as America's new number one pain in the ***, and i wish him well in his new found position
2007-04-12 04:17:02
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answered by arctic_sheets 4
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By your attitude, I would guess that you are Iranian or from some other Islamic country and chances are you are here in the USA because of our rights and values that you want to enjoy. GO HOME! Realize that Iranian State Owned Radio and TV reported on the situation and remember that the whole time Iraq, US and British authorities stated that the British Vessel was in Iraqi waters. Believe the propoganda machine if you want, but get informed about how the POWs are treated. First realize that they are POWs and are in a POW camp. Even so, we respect their right to practice their faith and had to make sure that all those Guitmo detainees were givin prayer rugs and Korans. They are being fed, housed and their medical needs tended to. Are they being questioned or interrogated? Sure they are...they are enemy fighters, and we are trying to gain knowledge that they may possess that will enable us to protect our troops...that's what you do with POWs. If we weren't dealing with a lame duck Brit Prime Minister and a lame duck President in the US, they would have told Iran that seizing the British crew in Iraqi (or if you prefer, disputed) waters was an act of war and that failure to return them unharmed would lead to retalliation. How's that for diplomacy!
2007-04-04 14:46:34
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answered by Jim 5
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All need to look to themselves regarding their actions towards prisoners. The U.S of A Britain etc.
But let´s not get carried away with the diplomatic scenario because if we had been at war with them they would have been treated a damn site different.
This saga had nothing to do with diplomacy what so ever. It was a planned action from beginning to end in a game of propaganda. What happened in between the taking and the releasing was just an act.
Their aim was to try and place themselves in the role of Nation Goody Goody and show others that they are not the monsters others seem to see them as. This was all fuelled by the present nuclear argument.
2007-04-04 13:59:09
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answered by titus 3
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I believe it was just a ploy / trick to divert attention away from the fact that they are planning to make an "A" bomb and the fact of the matter is that there are a heap of dangerous people out there coupled with the fact that it was a plain attempted lesson in how to humiliate the west Who declared war on who? I suggest we try to walk a mile in Mr bushes shoes before we criticise him to badly he is trying his best I think he has a good heart
2007-04-12 12:40:11
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answered by the bee man 4
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Yes yes muslim hospitrality is much better
to all those garbos thinking it were staged:
why would the iranian want to abuse the hostages?
what motive was there,in abusing them and later staging a a kind and humane treatment of them?
Why not just treat them humanly all the way through?
2007-04-12 11:39:20
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answered by osama bin ladan 1
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"So,how can anyone say the Bush government is democratic? "
The democratic process is in full efect in America and has nothing to do with prisoners.
Guantanamo is for enemy combatants found fighting coalition troops, the Brits where captured and taken prisoner ilelgally.
They were then shown on TV which is a violation of the geneva convention.
Also, they treeted them nice and showed them on TV to make the Iranian people, and people like you believe they are very nice. They torture their own people, they commit genocides on other countries. Ahmadenijahd is no different than saddam, his weaopns of choice jsut isnt chemical weapons.
2007-04-04 13:45:59
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answered by Anonymous
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Both countries manipulate the media and have a horrific recent history of human rights abuses. But both can changed, the bush regime cannot ignore the rights of people and one day will be called to account, iran will one day be free too.
2007-04-12 06:43:08
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answered by Del 3
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