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A brute fact is an objective actuality whose existence does not depend on the subjective (phenomenal) states of rational or perceiving subjects. An institutional fact is a subset of social facts. The existence of forms of currency like the dollar bill is an institutional fact.

2007-04-04 03:35:58 · 11 answers · asked by sokrates 4 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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The proposition is an institutional fact. The existence of the Bible, Koran, etc are brute facts.

For those who seem to have interpreted your question as a challenge to faith, the BELIEF in the proposition is the essence of faith, which is the willingness to accept in your heart and mind that which cannot be proven as fact. If you are a person of faith, that is the basis for whichever religion you have accepted as your own.

2007-04-04 04:05:22 · answer #1 · answered by desertjewelcats 3 · 1 0

It all depends on who you talk to or what you mean by the word 'God' in the first place. If you say God exists in the sense of institutional fact, which you talk about, then it has to be asserted that subjects created 'God' in the same fashion a dollar bill was created. For the most part, this is not what most people normally mean by 'God.'

Karl Marx for example thought religion was created; implying God was created as well. In short, it is a fiction. A fiction can exist so long as it remains as a fiction. So the proposition of "God exists" would, from the perspective that people generated 'God,' be an institutional fact.

Normally when if God exists becomes a concern, God is understood in terms of what you call a brute fact; that is to say its existence is independent of subjects' rational capacity or ability to perceive it. Logically speaking, God either exists or not; so the proposition "God exists" has its truth and falsity. In other words, it is a cognitive use of a proposition; and whether or not it is true requires a verification of if God really exists. So it is a brute fact if in fact God exists, but it cannot be a brute fact if God does not exist at all.

The last concern that I will point out is the structure of the very proposition of "God exists." Immanuel Kant, for instance, would argue that the word 'God' has no connocation that can be humanly comprehended and has no denotation that can be verified by human. In other words, it is a 'word' which lacks what makes up a word. (A word requires either a connocation or a denotation) Thus, 'God exsits' will lose its subject 'god' from a proposition; and simply becomes 'exists' in which there is nothing to exist or not to exist at all. In short, the proposition 'God exists' simply disappears.

2007-04-04 10:58:01 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

It is bollocks.
Not the dog's bollocks.... just bollocks.

Nonsense. Crap. Tripe... Somewhat less savoury words.

Ultimately though it is as irrelevant as anything else.
There are no brute facts. Not even that (that there are no brute facts) .... There are only assumptions. They can be based on logic, based on experience..... or based on nothing more than whimsy. This is a case of the third of those.

Possibly it is also case number 4: based on concensus.
But then that is a particularly dodgy one...

2007-04-04 11:54:26 · answer #3 · answered by Nihilist Templar 4 · 0 1

The phrase "God exists" is a popularly held belief, but still just a belief. Without empirical evidence, it will always come down to belief. It is the very definition of faith.

2007-04-04 10:39:53 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Everyone believes in something, that is called Faith. I believe in God and Jesus Christ, I am called a Christian. There are others on the other side of the world that believe in Allah, they Are called Muslims. there are more that i can name off but that is not your question. If you believe that God exsists, than He exsists through your faith in Him in your life. If you don't than He does not exsist in your life and those who have chosen not to accept Him. And if that is how you feel... I am sorry for you. You are missing out on great things that He can do for you. I will pray for you.

2007-04-04 11:03:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

its relative, depends on the person, as to whether its a fact at all, much less a defined into a category fact

2007-04-04 10:41:10 · answer #6 · answered by dlin333 7 · 1 0

It's not a fact at all, it's a belief that some people choose to hold.

2007-04-04 10:38:09 · answer #7 · answered by leaptad 6 · 0 0

It is a fact, God does exist! some people are gonna be so sorry for not believing, but it's gonna be too late.

2007-04-04 10:39:28 · answer #8 · answered by U make me smile! 2 · 1 1

god is god, that is a fact ! what kind of fact matters not

2007-04-04 10:40:48 · answer #9 · answered by henryredwons 4 · 1 1

Neither.... it is a Creative fact.... hope you understand what I mean!?!

2007-04-04 10:41:03 · answer #10 · answered by small 7 · 1 0

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