should barry bonds get the pete rose treatment?

Question

for those who say he was a hall of famer before he did steroids. pete rose was a Hall of Fame player before he bet on the game.

Answer 1

yes fair is fair.they both cheated didnt they ? one should not be treated better than another if they broke team policy by betting on the games or by using illegal drugs steroids to enhance their performance on the field.what a waste for both of them!

Answer 2

Both Bonds and Rose should be in the Hall of Fame in my opinion. While it seems rather obvious that Bonds took steroids, he has yet to fail a drug test that we know about. But the major factor to me is we know that a lot of players, pitchers included, also took steroids and for the most part we don't know who they are. There is no doubt that some of the other players that haven't been in the steroid discussion at all yet took them are HOF caliber. The only reasons Bonds is being picked on is because the media hates him, he can be a punk at times, and he's about to break the homerun record.


As for Rose, I've always wanted him in the HOF and hopefully it happens while he is alive. I personally believe the man has been humbled enough. And I say this knowing what he did and believing it was worse than any steroid user has done.

Answer 3

Bonds cheated like way more players than anyone will admit have. The Hall of Fame is full of players who may have used some form of "enhancing" whether it was drugs, doctored bats, doctored balls, etc.. Even the great Hank Aaron said of Bonds "Steroids didnt help anyone hit a curveball", of course he was mostly being a gracious person but there is a lot of truth to the matter. Rose on the other hand could influence any game he ....played, managed! Bonds still had to perform, Rose did not have to do anything other than knowingly alter a game for an extra buck. There is a huge difference between the 2 acts. I personally dont feel sorry for Bonds, he created his own mess but like I said before he is far from the only cheater to ever play the game. I find it interesting that Sosa is a "feel good story" this season. WHY? He used drugs the same as Bonds...and Giambi (another "feel good story" who won come back player a couple seasons ago.....not aware that coming back from cheating should be rewarded!). So to judge Bonds as the only cheater is sad and one wonders why nobody minds all the other cheating that has gone on (and still does), that makes hypocrites of anyone that seems to think Barry is the only bad guy. Realize I am NOT defending him, he cheated and gets whatever comes his way but so too should everyone else....and it is truly sickening to hear people who defend some of the others, steroids werent banned when they did them, there is no proof they used and all the other BS....a cheater is a cheater and isnt better than another cheater just because they are a nicer guy or happen to play for someones favorite team!

Answer 4

i don't think either should be held out of the hall of fame. so maybe bonds did some steroids he still needed the talent to hit the ball out of the park over 700 times.
and Rose yea it's F@cked up what he did, but has most career hits (over 4000) and over 3500 singles how do you keep him out? I'm just saying if it is a record it belongs in the hall of fame even if he gambled on the games. they can find other ways to punish him.

Answer 5

im sure that there are members in the Hall -of-Fame that took steroids or something like that. Granted there was no testing back in the day, how can they hold that against bonds? Rose should be in the Hall and so does Barry.

Answer 6

I think Pete Rose should be put in the hall-of-fame and for now Barry Bonds should too. I am almost certain he has used steroids, but it has not been proven yet, so I think both of them should be allowed in the hall-of-fame.

Answer 7

It would be consistent of MLB. But in this age of political correctness, baseball will sell out to the almighty dollar and give BB the Jackie Robinson treatment, and insult the memory of JR in the process.

Answer 8

Pete Rose did not do anything to de-legitimize the game... he won't be reinstated until after he dies unfortunately. Bonds has tainted the record books with his actions. We will never truly know the full ramifications. Does he deserve to be bannished... in my opinion, yes. Until they do something, baseball record keeping is a joke.

Answer 9

Yes.

There is NO place for using performance-enhancing substances.

I don't care that he hasn't actually admitted to it, the evidence he has is overwhelming.

I don't care that he was HOF caliber without them, you cheat, you have crossed a line and you suffer the consequences.

And while we're at it , it's time to put Pete Rose in. Half the existing HOFers were not lily-white off the field either.

The difference between the two is Rose did not cheat to gain an unfair advantage ON the field.

When considering HOF admission and whether someone who had problems OFF the field is worthy, I ask myself, if I am a manager or owner of a team this Guy is on, how is my record being affected by this person's off the field shenanigans?

Rose - 3 World Championships
Bonds - NONE

Enough said.

Answer 10

Most definitly, hes a cheater, and he shouldnt be in the hall of fame. Or be able to win any batting titles. Its BS that there still letting him play. almost every hr he hit was when he was juicing.

Answer 11

Barry Bonds has never failed a drug test. End of story.

Anyone with half a brain suspects him, but suspicions are not enought to convict a man.