When it comes down to the final fight over the Iraq war funding, who do you think....?

Question

Will win? Congress or President Bush?

I think it'll be congress based on past history - no president with low approval ratings has won a budget battle with an empowered Congress in modern history. Nixon backed down over Vietnam, and Newt Gingrich backed down from Clinton's veto because Clinton had high approval ratings, and the public blamed Congress for stalling the process. The people wanted the Federal shutdown to end so were behind Clinton.

In this fight the people want a tangible solution to ending the Iraq war. Bush is not exactly in the best approval ratings shape (understatement), and Congress is doing what the people demanded in Nov 06.

Like it or not cons - the will of the people does have powerful effects on politicians - which is how it should be.

Hmm - cons like to forget that congress writes the bills - not Bush. If he doesn't get what he wants and is perceived as vetoing a valid bill, the people will back the congress much more. It may go back and forth a few times - but the end is pretty clear.

The second part cons forget is the bill does not stop pay, services and basic support for the troops - only combat operations.

Answer 1

Obviously it will be the people, through their representatives, who win this fight, because their tax dollars are financing this fiasco. Poor Dubya hasn't learned yet that the people are the real deciders, not him. But he will shortly. Congress is about to pull the rug out from under his delusional escapades in Iraq, which ultimately are tantamount to nation building. By the way, didn't he make a pledge before he was put into office for his first term that he wouldn't engage in that sort of behavior. I guess that goes to show that politicians will say just about anything to win votes.

Here's something else I find quite amusing about Dubya's stance on funding his war games in Iraq. He is accusing Congress of playing chicken with the troops and putting them in harms way. It occurrred to me when I read that piece that he must be kidding. What does he think he sent them into, a picnic? When Congress does cut funding ot this little charade and if casualties begin to mount due to lack of adequate supplies, it won't be Congress who the people blame, but rather Mr. Bush and Company for placing them in that position unnecessarily in the first place. Congress has got to do something to grab Dubya's attention and force this fraudulent conflict to an end. If Dubya's reputation suffers as a result, too bad. All of these ramifications should have been factored into the Bush Administration's decision to enter Iraq from the beginning. They weren't. That was a terrible miscalculation on their part, but now they are stuck with the consequences and the American people bear no responsibility for their egregious lack of foresight.

Answer 2

You had the right example but the wrong conclusion.

When the Congress backed out of the "Contract with America" and the federal shutdown, it wasn't because the President had the people behind him. It was because Congress was the last one to take action on this, so therefore they would have been to shut down the government and not the President.

The same thing will happen here. If the Congress attaches a timeline to funding and the President vetoes it, the President will blame Congress for not providing adequate funding for the troops and accuse Congress of playing politics with the issue. He will win that argument, because pro or anti-war, people do not want to see the troops go without proper funding.

Answer 3

congress. The planet of the apes has been finally challenged.

Four U.S. soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq on Monday, the U.S. military said, bringing the U.S. death toll since the invasion to 3,257.
Two U.S. soldiers and a Marine were killed in separate attacks in the volatile western Anbar province, the heartland of the Sunni Arab insurgency.
One soldier died and three were wounded when a large truck bomb exploded outside a police station in the disputed northern city of Kirkuk. Two policemen and 10 civilians were also killed.

Answer 4

I hope that the troops will be the winners of the battle since they need the funding to stay alive. It is a sad day when the Congress and the President will put the troops in more danger then they already are, just for their own power struggle.

Answer 5

it really is not any longer being shrink everywhere. it really is being revealed or borrowed... for destiny generations of people to ought to pay decrease back. at the same time as the authorities needs money, and they don't prefer to improve our taxes (because they choose us to re-opt for them so that they stay in capacity)... they merely get the Federal Reserve to print the money. This motives inflation and devalues our greenback, wiping out the speed reductions of the middle class. Or they borrow it from communist China. China has more advantageous funds than any u . s . in the international. both way, the nationwide debt grows, and it really is already to the point that we can in no way cope with to pay it off. We owe $9 trillion by technique of conservative estimates, with yet another $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities for social protection, medicare and medicaid. it is about $four hundred,000 in accordance to loved ones. Like I suggested, no thanks to pay that decrease back. they're fleecing our u . s . up there in D.C., and all their wealthy company pals have become richer off the sweat and toil of undemanding individuals. Sickening. yet, we proceed to vote a similar crooks in workplace. we've a ninety% re-election price in Congress. that they had a ninety 2% re-election price in the Soviet Union, and they merely had one celebration! we are broke. who's responsible? Congress. Who needs to be fired? all of them.

Answer 6

i think congress will win. If the democracy really works then congress will win. Bush can use his veto all he wants but congress and the people will not give up....we will remain persistant till the majority really does prevail over the minority.

Answer 7

Congress has a better chance, but only if they get their act toghether. Bush could still use the veto.

Answer 8

Congress speaks for the people, so it will be Congress.

Answer 9

It will be President Bush without a doubt. Your post is based merely on opinions not facts. The chicken-hawk neo-libs can't have their way just because they say so. The Dems knew that a bill with a time line would be vetoed before they drafted it, that is why they did it. If they gave a crap about our Troops they would have drafted a bill that could pass based on its own merits.

Answer 10

The president WILL win. It would be political suiced to vote NO for funding our troops. These are troops in a 100% volunteer army. These are our brothers, sisters, friends and neighbors. Would you vote for someone who took the rug right out from under any of those folks and put them in even more of harms way.