That alone implies that we should all dissent and then we're all patriotic. . .HOGWASH
There'd never be agreement on anything. . there'd constantly be unrest, the Senate and Congress would never get anything done, and it only promotes hatred and strife !!
Simply showing dissent just for the sake of showing dissent, does NOT equate with patriotism. . . but it does equate with bickering, childishness, insolence, hatred, anarchy, and civil unrest !!
Is that what you really want. .. . and just who the heck is responsible for lying to our Liberal people and. . . . . .. . How the heck did they but into such utter foolishness ?
2007-04-03
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This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the guy goes to a place where you can buy an 'argument' . He pays, but doesn't get a logical argument. . instead he gets the negative of whatever he just said. . . equivocally , the inane " Yes it is. . No it isn't. . Yes it is. . No it isn't , nonsense !!
2007-04-03
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Funny how those of you who choose not to think for yourselves, are always ready and willing to run and hide behind a quote from Jefferson or Franklin . Those 2 guys would've been the FIRST 2 people to try an smack some common sense into you !!
2007-04-03
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Oops ... Earnest T is upset, and justifiably so.
I won't try to steal your "blog," but I'd like to merely name the most recent forms of useless, divisive, and potentially dangerous dissent that I've recently observed:
• Speaker Pelosi seems to be practicing to be State Department secretary. She thinks she has a foreign policy role.
• Sen. Harry Reid, Senate majority leader, and the House "Dems" are playing "pork games" with the defense funding bill they're working on.
• One word: "Rosie." Have you seen the web site for The View? (See my link below) How is it that all the hosts have a link for submitting e-mails, but Rosie doesn't? She hasn't recently been nicknamed "Tokyo Rosie" for nothing, you know. And if you don't understand the reference to "Tokyo Rosie," you may be too young/ignorant to participate in this discussion.
• Some, repeat, SOME of the Hollywood types are a chronic problem, of course.
I have a special comment for supporters/backers of our entertainment friends from the left coast who've made a 2nd career out of their love for being divisive. I want to know exactly who you're going to ask for assistance if/when the "stuff" hits the fan in or near YOUR hometown? Will you call on your Hollywood mentors? I somehow seriously doubt that because:
(1) You cannot count on the new breed of defense and foreign policy experts from Hollywood for anything except serving as a source of dissent for the sake of dissent.
(2) Their millions are for them and not for the folks who helped make them wealthy. I see them doing a lot of taking (and talking), but they don't seem to be quite as well-known for being the "serving" type. When I say "serve," I mean like Ronald Reagan did, like Jimmy Stewart did ... and Clark Gable, James Arness, Bob Barker, Jack Webb, Robert Stack, William Holden, Charleton Heston, and Burt Lancaster did, just to name a few.
(3) More than likely, if the "stuff" hits the fan in a big way, you can count on their passports being up to date; you'll find them making a mad dash for the French Riviera.
There are constructive ways to disagree. I wish the dissenters would suggest solutions while they're complaining. THAT would help. Complaining without showing a willingness to help is counter-productive.
Vice President Cheney summed it up very nicely, recently:
"It's time the self-appointed strategists on Capitol Hill understood a very simple concept: You cannot win a war if you tell the enemy you're going to quit."
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
Well, I'm truly sorry I haven't got something nicer to say about today's modern-day dissenters. I'll just remind you that united we stand, divided we fall. It's as simple as that, folks.
Thanks, Earnest T.
2007-04-03 10:47:16
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If that were true then why even bother having more than a one party system!
With opposing parties you will have opposing views!
If no one ever dissented we'd all be living in a narrow box of thought and ideas.
Being a liberal thinking person allows for many thoughts and varying opinions.
Sometimes the best ideas come from the most unusual sources and through exhausted debate.
You know sometimes Earnest I think you are actually the most "liberal" Republican and do not recognize it!
Too bad more weren't!
2007-04-03 05:10:46
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“We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.” - Edward R. Murrow
“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion” - Dwight D Eisenhower
“Freedom is hammered out on the anvil of discussion, dissent, and debate.” - Hubert H. Humphrey
“The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance of official policy, but a love of one's country deep enough to call her to a higher plain” - George McGovern
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” - Mark Twain
That's where...
I agree that some show dissent simply because it is "trendy", but many of us have deep concerns about the direction our nation is being turned, away from the intentions of our founders. I don't disagree with everything our government does, only those things which damage our credibility in the world and damage our liberty at home.
So yes, dissent is patriotic, in small doses and for the right reasons. Dissent simply for the sake of dissent is childish. Dissent to open a dialog for improvement ican be a very good thing.
2007-04-03 16:59:04
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I believe in civil disobedience and I believe that dissent is sometimes called for. I wonder if the quote is taken out of context. I do not believe that Jefferson would of wanted "utter" chaos. The dissent is directed towards governing that goes against our constitutional and god given rights (whoever your god may be).
You have made a good point but I think liberals are questioning our government and that is not only patriotic but necessary. If this is truly a government by the people and for the people then it is "the people's" responsibility to not only question our gov't but to hold them to high standards.
2007-04-03 13:05:44
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You're actually serious?
Man, I can't even GO there with someone talking like that.
Sorry if you believe that blind acceptance is the way to go.
If people didn't question things, where would we be today? What social and gov't. programs would never have come to fruition?
You think that things like OSHA and food regulations came about all by themselves, or because of some benevolent politicians? Get real. People died, people were disabled, people complained about things.
And by the way, it isn't just "liberals" who dissent, by the way.
Better go back and do a LOT more research on this, bud.
2007-04-03 08:14:51
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No. I John 5:7 does no longer say "3 persons." The Trinity is the theory that the daddy, Son, and Holy Spirit are 3 diverse persons, each and each and every being God, each and each and every co-equivalent and co-eternal with the others. it really is genuinely 3 Gods pretending to be one. If the daddy sends the Holy Spirit, then that makes the daddy better to the Holy Spirit. the authentic Bible doctrine is genuinely extremely undemanding. there is one God, and that you may make himself properly-known to us in quite some methods. the daddy is who God is; the Holy Spirit is what God is. Jesus is the only man or woman in whom dwells the fulness of deity; Colossians 2:9-10. on the baptism of Jesus, you do not see 3 persons; you ehar a voice (does God should be a "man or woman" to communicate? No.). you spot a form like a dove; is the Holy Spirit completely contained in that dove? No; no longer available. The Spirit of God became in no way at any time constrained to one actual area.
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I think perhaps acceptance or tolerance of dissent could be said to demonstrate patriotism and understanding of our rights as citizens.
Promotion and encouragement of dissent may well be a form of the opposite.
2007-04-03 15:10:26
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Their history professor, freshman year of college. He missed Woodstock and is still bitter.
Dissent is a form of patriotism as long as it is based on logical assessment of the issue. Dissenting for the sake of itself only, is the highest form of brainwashing.
2007-04-03 07:27:08
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I think where the confusion comes in is that in the original quote I believe it to have meant an older use of the word higher.. in other words "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" should be read to mean it is the last resort.. the highest in the chain because it is the last thing you should do.. while noble when it is needed.. it should rarely be needed.
2007-04-03 04:55:30
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It very simple. It means that if the government is doing something that is fundamentally dangerous to the future of our country then you don't just sit on your ***. You stand up and dissent. It's your obligation as a citizen.
2007-04-03 04:55:56
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