Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for the Democrats in 08?

Answer 1

I will never vote for her or any democrat.
If Hillary takes it in 08, any bets on what that body count will be?

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends"of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness
in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later
the Air Traffic Controller commited suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II. Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising
organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead
in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a
"Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in
the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He
allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
"Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as
if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible
corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
fiancee.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until
her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently in
the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to
Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15,
1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.
Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of
Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council
personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in
the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. Lawhorn was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,
1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, was due to boys falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to that case died
before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck,
7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".
34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.
35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in
a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what
happens to "friends" of the Clintons!

Answer 2

I have to ask the first poster: are you accusing the Clintons of murder? Yes or no?

Now as to the question ACTUALLY posed. My sense is that the Democrats (I am not one) will nominate Clinton--she has the connections, the political skills, and has a reasonable (ikf unremarkable) record as Senator from New York.

If they are smart, however, they would choose Obama in 2008. He understands the power of the presidency as a bully pulpit (to quote Teddy Roosevelt) and how to fire the imagination of those who hear him. He is a man who has built his (very short) political career on the idea of political inclusiveness when it comes to decision making--bringing in the left and right. That is the mark of mature political mind.

Obama has also a much better chance in the general election than does Hillary. His lack of a polarizing political career would only help his candidacy.

I fear the nominee will be Clinton; I hope it is Obama..

Answer 3

Hillary Clinton is the favorite for 2008 because of her experience and intelligence to run the White House.

Answer 4

I hope of those two it's Obama, because I think Clinton is too divisive and may hinder the chances of a Democrat from becoming President.

Answer 5

Hillary will ruin this country and destroy any democrat's chances of becoming president for years to come.

I'm more qualified to run for President than Barack Obama.

Though I guess if I had to vote for one of them, I'd vote for Obama. My husband is in the military and Hilary will destroy our military if she becomes president.

Answer 6

Obama for sure. Haven't we had enough of the Clinton's and the Bush's for the past 20 years???

Answer 7

The democrats have the advantage because Bush is really messing up...... but the reality is that most of the nation will not vote for a Pretty African American and almost all the nation will not vote for a lady to manage our country who could not manage her own household.

Answer 8

Hillary Clinton is a clear winner.

Answer 9

Neither. Bill Richardson.

Mark K, switch to decaf.

Answer 10

HILLARY 4 President!! We NEED her in office!! She will do a swell job!! ;-)

Mary in the small village of Onsted, Michigan

Answer 11

Obama for sure