Women. Oppressed by their own hypergamy. The poor dears?

Question

POST-BRIDGET, IT'S LOOKING EVEN WORSE FOR THE GIRLS
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article1580310.ece

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that an alpha female requires an even more alpha male as a mate. But a recent report suggests today’s successful woman with her high standards and picky notions will have nobody to marry"

Damn straight. Pay attention. This is why women can't have it all: HYPERGAMY. Men can have it all because they'll marry down and are happy to support someone to take care of the kids, enabling them to have a career and a family.

No such thing is acceptable for women.

With the divorce rate and laws - and The Marriage Strike, men are more interested in their own thing than working hard to be a "good provider" candidate for a marriage in which they have to still work, do housework, have to put up with nagging and/or get taken to the cleaners. We're not such lemmings as to see work as something other than just that.. WORK.

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Righto time to go through:

Blabber: No contradiction. Context is important for comprehension:

"men are more interested in their own thing THAN [what women are offering instead]."

Carrie: No, if women want to work for the rest of their lives and die childless that's fine with me.

Rain: The woman in that position exploits the man - he works to provide for her and the family.

You read the next bit wrong - Women will not accept marrying down. However, they continue to want to exploit a man to provide for her and the family. Thanks to their hypergamy, they will not marry down and they are unlikely to marry equal either - as for marrying up feminism has fixed that by ensuring there will be no men in that position and if there are - none willing.

Answer 1

"But a recent report suggests today’s successful woman with her high standards and picky notions will have nobody to marry"

I read that the "Alpha females" have to "marry down". Most alpha females have college educations, if not advanced degrees, but fewer and fewer men are graduating from college. Thus you have situations where female college grads with high-level jobs are marrying male high school grads with blue-collar jobs.

Answer 2

"Today’s successful woman with her high standards and picky notions will have nobody to marry"

OH NO! Say it isn't so! I can't live my life without finding my CEO prince charming so that I can give up my career to raise his children from a previous marriage! What ever shall we do! If we can't find someone to marry, we'll never truly be whole! Save us, Happy Bullet!

"Men are more interested in their own thing than working hard to be a "good provider" candidate for a marriage in which they have to still work, do housework, have to put up with nagging and/or get taken to the cleaners."

So, no man wants to work, do housework, and listen to someone complaining. Women have had to do this for hundreds of years! So, you agree then that women have the worse end of the deal. Thank you for making my point.

By posting this question, you are complaining that women's standards today are too high. Why does this bother you? Unless you want women to lower their standards so that you could actually get a date once in a while. C'mon, you can't be all that bad. Chin up! Certainly there's a deaf and/or blind woman out there who might let you buy dinner for her at least once.

Answer 3

Let me see if I am reading you right. You are saying men marry for partnership, romance and the whole nine yards and no one should ever feel put out by the other because of sex; there's probably another word, can't think of it now, perhaps genre fits. I being a woman married for the above reasons and that's exactly what I have.

Answer 4

So according to you, women should just shut up, let go of any opinions they may hold, stop working, and then we'll all accomplish what makes us real women - having a husband.

And yet you anti-feminists claim you aren't sexist. Ha. Ha. Ha.

P.S. I absolutely would not mind "marrying down." I guess your "universally acknowledged truth" isn't so universal after all.

P.P.S. Please read "Backlash" by Susan Faludi. It won the Pulitzer Prize for investigative journalism for debunking myths such as this.

P.P.P.S. To whomever said there was a "man shortage": there are more women than men, but only because women live longer. So the extra women are all over 60. I don't think I'm "competing" with a geriatric for men, so the "man shortage" does not exist.

Answer 5

Well, the thing is, men tend to marry "down," which is why they'll typically choose their secretary over a woman who's a CEO.

Men need women to depend on them, and women need men to care for them...and it's a bit hard to have that when a woman is all-powerful and super-independent. It has nothing to do with men oppressing women...it's just natural.

On that note, before we had our son, when I was working, my husband said he didn't care who made more because it benefitted BOTH of us. My husband made more than I did though, and we worked at the same place, same shift--but his job is a LOT more technical, and mine wasn't that technical.

The thing is, what we earned went into the same bank account. I'm the type of woman who doesn't *want* everything...I'm not much of a pack-rat, unlike my husband! ;)

Answer 6

I don't think that it's the fact that women have more education or a better job. It's their attitude. Most men only want peace in their homes. With a feminist that's full of herself, he's not likely to get it. Why would he subject himself to that? I don't blame him. Fortunately there are still women in this world who strive to be women in the traditional sense. We still feel it is our job to be a helpmeet and companion to our husbands. We might work, but we'll put our husband and family first. I am an intelligent woman with a college education, but all I ever wanted to do was be a stay at home wife and mother. I am finally living my dream and I couldn't be more content and happy.

Answer 7

"Men can have it all because they'll marry down and are happy to support someone to take care of the kids, enabling them to have a career and a family".

What you are effectively saying is that men view women as a mere comodities - he simply exploits them for his own purposes. (someone to take care of his kids so he can further his career). Well yes, I've seen much of this. Thanks for admitting it.
I'm sure this is why some men "marry down", they select women who don't know any better, or, select women who are all for the game of "lets pretend".

"No such thing is acceptable for women"

Let me rephrase that for you: No such thing is acceptable for an emotionally mature woman who can pierce through pretense like a freaking laser beam. An honest woman wants an honest man...and misogynists/male-chauvinists are anything but.

"men are more interested in their own thing"

But men like you have no real interests...aside from their own self-absorbed narcissism. Sorry, I thought you knew that.

EDIT:

"Rain: The woman in that position exploits the man - he works to provide for her and the family".

Any man who marries for the purpose of using her to further his career and to take care of his prized possessions is a con artist. The women who marry this type of man are EQUALLY dishonest and exploitive (they would have to be)....or just plain DUMB. I did state in my first response: "they select women who don't know any better, or, select women who are all for the game of "lets pretend". "

I see insecure men "marry down" all the time...because an intelligent and honest woman would NEVER go along with 'his' pretense or 'the' pretense. These types of marriages are for the desperate not the authentic.

Answer 8

Ah. Still more attempts to scare women out of their careers and into wedding dresses next to some men they're too good for. I guess we'd better start dumbing ourselves down before no one loves us anymore. Women are just screwed every which way they turn, huh?

So where does it say that women want - or need - to get married in the first place?

Answer 9

The nature of marriage has changed in the U.S. Of course alot of what you are saying is true, but there is still that lil thing calld love. There is also a lil thing calld - Man Shortage. Which is why Kevin can hook up with Britney, and Angelina has to steal Jennifer Aniston's husband ( Brad Pitt). Plus, society is becoming more morally and ethically debased.Women see this and want their share of the pie becuz they think they can, it's their time. Anyway, women and men will still marry and commit their lives 2 each other. Maybe less than in previous decades but we will still marry, and adapt.

Answer 10

In the minds of most feminist pigs, the idea of marriage and children is a man's idea. No! It's called human-nature. There is nothing more I can't stand is the western woman. I hate them. Do I want a woman who stays at home and does everything I tell them to? NO. I come from a European background where my mom stayed at home and raised us. This didn't give my father the right to boss her around, rather, she took care of the major financial decisions, and was the brains of the house, my dad, yes, he advanced his career and brought home even more money. Hmmm, sounds like a pretty healthy lifestyle to me.