now dont get me wrong, i find nothing wrong with gay people having meaningful loving relationships, i see them as normal people like everyone else, im fine with them spending their lives together yada yada BUT marriage is a religious ceremony, therefore they shouldnt be allowed to do it, marriage is the bringing together of a male and female infront of god. it was the rules created by the church so if they want "marriage" another name is going to have to be given to it.....i know its bad but god is heavily against gay people so why would gay people want to be binded together by a religious ceremony? i think the government is too involved with the (heavily christian) religion. if youd like to see some examples of gods stance on religion ust take a look at Leviticus, if you still think its not, im happy to give examples. there needs to be a seperaton between "marriage" and the "rights that are given to people that are married" if you get what i mean
2007-04-01
02:18:53
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"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)...dont tell me god isnt descrimitry, the old testament is part of christianity, therefore we practice it. also, im not against gay marriage, but i think there needs to be another name for it that invloves all the equal rights
2007-04-01
02:55:39 ·
update #1
also that person who said the thing about athiests, people confuse marriage, they think its just a sign of togetherness rather than a religious ceremony. i think they can get married, im not religious, but i am a christian, i cant even remember what u said now....so i dunno if i asnwered ur comment
2007-04-01
03:00:37 ·
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yes i agree with the person who said "too heavily involved with MY government" i think i worded it wrong...
2007-04-01
03:02:36 ·
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basically i think gay people should b allowed to have the same rights and get MARRIED, have EVERYTHING other people can, but unfortunetly its not going to happen anytime soon thanks to narrow minded people
2007-04-01
03:08:37 ·
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I sort of agree with you, but I go further.
I think Marriage is a religious ceremony, and each religion should be free to make it's choice about who to marry. HOWEVER...I think that the rights of marriage need to start and stop at the church doors.
As far as Leviticus, the crazy part of the bible, goes.... It's amazing that people focus on the two lines about men lying with men as a corner stone of religious life, and ignore the rest of it. Like stoning your kids to death if they embarrass you, or starving a man to death if he wears clothes made of 2 different materials. It's very selective and self serving, just perverting the bible as an excuse to justify your hatred for your brothers and sisters.
2007-04-01 02:54:44
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answered by Anonymous
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Marriage is not an exclusively religious ceremony.
There are religions that will allow Same-Sex marriage.
Christianity is not the end-all be-all of religion nor is it any form of Government nor can it be so long as the First Amendment is in place.
To create a "separate but equal" version of marriage is blatantly Unconstitutional and forms legal segregation.
Your religious views serve absolutely no purpose in attempting to make laws to govern all, especially those who do NOT believe as you believe or follow your religion.
Religious Marriage carries NO RIGHTS whatsoever, those rights are obtained through the purchase of a Marriage License from the State in which you reside.
BTW quoting Leviticus would infer that you reject the sacrifice of the Christ that was made to do away with those old laws, is this indeed the case? If not then Leviticus is not a legitimate biblical stance from which you may argue.
2007-04-01 02:48:18
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answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6
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Hmmm... many churches/religions (United Church of Christ, many Episcopal Churches, Unitarian-Universalists, the Metropolitan Community Churches) would like to offer marriage to their congregants, but the state will not recognize those. So the state is preventing churches from carrying out their rituals in a meaningful way, since they consider marriage NOT to be between a man and a woman, but instead between two loving adults, no matter their gender.
Kindly consider that you are heavily culturally influenced in such a way as to envision only one way of viewing religions. In fact, churches in Scandinavia, South Africa, Canada, and the Netherlands, and Massachusetts where gay marriage is allowed are often the site and the officiants at same-sex weddings. Not everyone is a fundamentalist, and fundamentalism does not rule the world.
2007-04-02 06:09:44
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answered by NHBaritone 7
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If marriage is a religious thing then why does the government legislate it? As long as married people have legal rights denied to couples living together that is discrimination. Be the couple same sex or opposite sex they should have all the rights and responsibilities of married people. And if marriage is a religious only thing then the government needs to get out of it and let the church handle it.
"it was the rules created by the church" It is rules created by YOUR church! There are churches that bless gay marriage.
2007-04-01 08:29:24
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answered by Ray T 5
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If two people (same sex or other) want to marry, in or out of the church let them.
There is nothing wrong with it, it will not break down marriage as we know it.
Up until the mid 60's people were saying the exact same thing about inter race marriages, and look some 40 some odd years later it is a common and accepted reality.
Marriage is a civil contract, that is why you have to go to town hall to get a license.
2007-04-01 02:40:56
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answered by Lady Mimi 3
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First off, I do not believe that god is against gay people. Last time I checked god and Jesus were about love not hate. I have talked to pastors who believe that this is how god made us and that he wouldnt hate us or dissaprove if this is his intention.
Second, marriage is bringing two people together legally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, in front of god, their community, and the govornment. I know of pastors who do commitment ceremonies all the time for GLBT people. Since we cant get married legally, we commit ourselves to eachother infront of god and our community.
I believe in my heart that god loves me. I believe in my heart that god accepts me.
Many people use leviticus against us. But have you ever read that book of the bible? Do you know why all those laws were made? I bet not, I bet many people just pick and choose verses to throw out.
So yes, I do think that gay people should be allowed to legally get married. We do the religious part already, so we just want the rights.
2007-04-01 08:01:55
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answered by Anonymous
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You have your religious marriage all you want.
But the fourteenth amendment has shown us one thing: "Seperate but Equal is never Equal."
We're fighting for our LEGAL right to marry... and yes, it should be marriage in name as well!
If all things are equal, than the name must remain.
Now, your rant on about Leviticus really irks me. As a Christian, Jesus gave his life for a new Covenant and put all the Old Testiment laws of a vengeful and angry God to rest. He NEVER once mentioned homosexuality and only ever preached about love, respect, tolerance, acceptance and treating your fellow human being as you would wish to be treated.
Leviticus isn't even practiced by Christians, so why bother bringing that up?
Oh and that crack about the Government being "too heavily involved" in your religion, you've got it turned around COMPLETELY backwards! Your Religion is TOO HEAVILY involved in MY GOVERNMENT!
You know the one that is FOR and BY the people, the one that protects FREEDOM OF RELIGION as well as FREEDOM FROM RELIGION...or is Supposed to.
I see the religious-right and their hostile take over of MY Government and honestly, I'm pissed off.
Its as if the Religious-right took the First amendment's implied seperation of Church and State "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." and read it to say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, but it can do nothing to stop the hostile take over of a radical fundimentalist religion on it."
2007-04-01 02:46:37
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answered by DEATH 7
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What people fail to realize about gay marriage is this- The government doesn't want gay/lesbian person to marry for only one reason. They don't want us to have the same tax breaks as everyone else. As a single person you pay a lot more taxes and cannot claim your partners dependent even though you have support ted them all year. As a lesbian I just find it hard to accept that I don't have the same rights as straight people. I don't want SPECIAL rights, I want the same rights.
2007-04-01 03:05:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Gay men like me we are humans too and every human needs treat love and care. So we need to get married and nothing can stop us
2015-05-30 08:42:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Marriage was originally a civil institution created for the transfer of property. Christianity adopted the word, its usage and meaning in the 6th century AD and have since claimed it as their own.
2007-04-01 02:50:02
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answered by Jenn 3
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