When did "Rome" fall?

Question

Was it when the western empire fell in 476 AD or when the Byzantine Empire fell in 1453 AD. I heard that the Byzantines still viewed themselves as Romans (even though most were Greek)

Answer 1

The Byzantines did consdier themselves "Roman", though they spoke Greek and worshiped in the Greek Orthodox (rather than Roman Catholic) Church. Their Emperors were still called Emperor, and had a line back to the Roman Cesars. They laid claim to the heritage of Rome, in no small part because their city hadn't fallen to barbarians and they still maintained the institutions and customs of Rome (even the chariot races... though not the gladiators). Their Empire continued till the 4th Crusade took Constantinople in 1204, and then made a comeback for a couple of centuries till 1453. You are right, technically the last man in the long line of Roman Emperors was Constantine XI who died at the Fall of Constantinople in 1453.

That being said, the "Fall of Rome" is normally either dated to the Sack of Rome by Alaric the Goth on August 24th A.D. 410, or the resignation of the last Roman Emperor of the Western Empire, Romulus Agustus, on September 4th, A.D. 476.

This is done by most historians because... well because most historians (at least in the English Speaking World) tend to center their history on Wester Europe. The Fall of Rome was a key event in history because most Europeans (and by extention most Americans, Canadians, and Australians) are not decended from "the Noble Greeks and Romans". No most Europeans are decended from the people that bumped into "the Noble Greeks and Romans", beat them up , and took all their stuff. It was this beating and taking of stuff, and the later Christianization of the Barbarians, that laid the foundation of Western European civilization and culture.

Also the Fall of Rome (the City) is important because once the Government of the City of Rome fell apart the citizens turned to the only surviving institution (the Church) and called upon its leader (the Bishop of Rome) to take over running the place. This is where the Papacy gets its start.

So even though there were still folks living all over the Eastern Medeterranian that called themselves Roman, and considered themselves Roman, pledged allegance to an Emperor who called himself Roman, and paid for things with coins that had a Roman Emperor's head on them for several hundred years after "the Fall of Rome"; historians call these folks "the Byzantines" because it creates less confusion.

Answer 2

Fall Of Rome Date

Answer 3

What Year Did Rome Fall

Answer 4

The end of the Roman Empire was the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 1453. While the Empire had once had Rome as its centre, Rome was long since gone. But the traditions and culture of Rome were carried on in the East.

The foundation of American law is the Corpus Juris Civilis, a codification of Roman law. This was commissioned by Emperor Justinian of Constantinople. The fundies who think American law is based on the Hebrew Ten Commandments (a knockoff of the Negative Confession in the Egyptian Book of the Dead thousands of years earlier) are simply misinformed.

In not only law but in many respects our modern world manifests the Roman heritage, conveyed through the Byzantine empire. When Constantinople fell to the Turks, the role of defender of the Christian faith fell to the Czar of All the Russias. In England, *fidei defensor* is a title and responsibility of the monarch of England. I don't know who took over that status from the Czar after 1917. Maybe the Bishop of Rome?

Answer 5

Well, I'd go with September 4th, 476, but . . ."


"The traditional date of the fall of the Roman Empire is September 4, 476 when Romulus Augustus, the de facto Emperor of the Western Roman Empire was deposed by Odoacer. Many historians question this date, noting that the Eastern Roman Empire continued until the Fall of Constantinople in 29 May 1453. "

Answer 6

Rome fell, to be sure. It just didn't fall when it was supposed to. All the reference books say it fell in A.D. 476. But Romans didn't know this, and kept the empire going for another two centuries or so.

Rome fell on June 4, 1944. D-Day As Well.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

1453. Byzantine Empire was the Eastern Roman Empire. They did not speak Latin, they spoke Greek. Their military structure pretty much the same. Also of interesting note, Tsar Nicholas II is said to be a distant related to Julius Caesar; although, very unlikely

Answer 9

What do you mean by fall? Both of these empires lost most of their power long before the official date given for their fall.

Answer 10

476 AD