If Bush Vetos then Bush is cutting off the money not Democrats.?

Question

The line above will be the 30 second TV adds used in Nov. 2008. In a mostly party line 51-47 vote, the Senate signed off on a bill providing $123 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It also orders Bush to begin withdrawing troops within 120 days of passage while setting a nonbinding goal of ending combat operations by March 31, 2008.

The Senate vote marked its boldest challenge yet to the administration's handling of a war, now in its fifth year, that has cost the lives of more than 3,200 American troops and more than $350 billion.
"We have fulfilled our constitutional responsibilities," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters shortly after the vote.
If Bush "doesn't sign the bill, it's his responsibility," Reid added.

Is anyone aware that Defense has already been funded at $498 billion for 2007? I hope you are aware that the line item veto has been ruled un-constitutional and it is that. Are you also aware that Bush has a $9 billion debt over the next ten years? All red ink as far as the eye can see.

Answer 1

ding ding ding!! You now understand politics :)

Answer 2

They tied his hands if he signs the bill he is buying the votes to approve the troop spending, being a troop once I suggested that we get congress on the front lines and when the enemy starts shooting let them talk the enemy to death, this is serious you put our fighting forces on the line and the majority of full time service members quit they Leave the service because they want to defend the country not be in politics and they don't want to throw rocks to those that are attacking them, the Democrats have started every major war we have ever been in including Kennedy, so to hell with the Democrats they don't care about the country only their soft cushy high paid jobs they get after they leave the government, and all the perks of being a congress member, they are the most self serving bunch of twerps we have ever had, including the wuss republicans, I say it's time for a Civil war, It is plain that the democrats want to destroy our nation at any cost, and they have become traitors if we had them on the battle field at least we could shoot them for deserters.

Answer 3

That's exactly what would happen. It doesn't matter to the Democrats who they hurt, or what sort of outlandish crap gets passed, as long as they can sit back and say, "Bush did it."

I don't think it will play out that way.

They aren't concerned with the country at this point, it's turned into a Bush Bash. If you all will listen to Hillary and other high profile dems, they can't get through a paragraph without drawing Bush into their speech. They simply cannot run based on what they believe and their skills and what they want to see happen in America. The only way to get the applause from fellow libs is to bash Bush. The only way to make themselves look good and elevate themselves is to bash Bush.

Their entire campaign is passed on bashing Bush.

Answer 4

900 billion in taxes is also included in that bill. Think you are poor and your money just doesn't stretch, just wait. I hope Bush passes the bill in its current form. This way the whole country will be hurting. The Democrats can get all of their money they want from the Americans and tax the death out of all of us. Yippee!! They knew when the drew up the bill it wouldn't be passed. It was intentionally done for this very reason. Duh, if people can't see this they need to be schooled by special ed.

Answer 5

Well said. And very accurate. And truly, irrefutable...not matter how people try.

You make the assumption that people on this forum will listen to reason and, perhaps, recognize reality. But that isn't the case. I am neither Dem nor Rep, and I do not HATE Bush for the sake of it. When I read and hear about the plans laid out by the Dems, I see that they are compromising, and offering a plan for the US to remove itself from an impossible situation in Iraq. Sadly, it attacks Bush's ego as the Decider...and he seems to refuse to play along. No one will be the winner at the end of the day...and the troops will be the scapegoat losers. Very sad.

Answer 6

The problem is someone somewhere needs to make it so that one item per bill or a line item veto... I mean really, yes there are some interesting and needy causes in the Iraq WAR funding bill... but does farm aid need to be in it, spinich farmers, and peanut storage? Yes, katrina vics prolly need more money to waste and blow on drugs and tatoos, but does it need to be in a WAR funding bill, its like loading the deck you know its gonna get vetod so you do it specificially tog et vetod so you have ammo for later

There really needs to be ONE item per bill.. if its funidng for a war that is the only thing onthat bill, Earmarks and pork need to stop being force fed on necessary bills...

Answer 7

Liberals don't understand that it always is the PRESIDENT'S responsibility not theirs. Remember Harry Truman's sign on his desk? It read " The Buck Stops Here"! It still does. Tell Harry Reid to get out of the real estate office and back to work.

Answer 8

If that is the spin you want to put onto this then fine.

However, you're not right. The Senate and the House knew before they passed this that Bush would veto it.

Answer 9

You are correct...no matter how Bush tries to spin it, it is a tough sell that the Democrats are at fault for putting in a timeline the majority of Americans support. If he vetoes the bill, he will take the brunt of the criticism, as he chose to veto a bill to fund the troops. The only people who believe that the Dems are at fault here are diehard Republicans.

Answer 10

The Dimocrats are the ones undermining the forces in Iraq by legislating the president's duties.

Answer 11

Just typical. No matter what happens in the world just blame Bush