Do u believe the English gov. when supporting its story by hand held GPS re position of 15 sailors in golf?

Question

Hand held GPS =0 as its not reliable & gives error >30miles!
* I bought one, then I had to return it back as it was showing me out of London while I was in it!
* GPS positions are accurate only when the satellite passes.
* Sat.passes at different intervals from 1/2 t0 3 1/2 hrs.
* Whithin those intervals, what u get from the Sat navigator (GPS) is approximate positions based on calculations between the lasdt two original GPSs, & that is regardless of water or air currents drifting,slowing or increasing the ship's speed.
* Especially in area near the coasts like in the Golf, the water currents change direction & speed v. rapidly.
* So theoritically they may be in Iraqi waters, But practically they were in Irani waters.
** I found it very stupid idea to prove that they were in Iraqi waters supported by a hand held GPS.
THIS IS HOW MODERS SHIPS RUN AGROUND IN THE eNGLISH CHANNEL, BECAUSE THE USERS DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE INSTRUMENTS WORK,IN THEORY THEY WERE ON COURSE BUT THEY R NOT!

Answer 1

I wouldn't believe Bush's lap poodle Tony Blair any farther than I could throw the H.M.S. Pinafore. He has been a dishonest and disgraceful representation of the British ever since he became Prime Minister. It looks like the Brits got caught with their knickers down. I wouldn't think it likely Iran would risk such a thing today unless they were right.

Answer 2

Craig Murray is former UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan (until he was cashiered for openly objecting to United Kingdom and U.S. support for torture there) and also former head of the maritime section of the British Foreign Office, and has considerable experience negotiating disputes over borders extending into the sea.
Murray points to a "colossal problem” with respect to the map the British government has used to show coordinates of the incident and the Iran/Iraq maritime border—the story uncritically accepted by stenographers of the mainstream press. Murray writes:

The Iran/Iraq maritime boundary shown on the British government map does not exist. It has been drawn up by the British Government. Only Iraq and Iran can agree on their bilateral boundary, and they have never done this in the Gulf, only inside the Shatt because there it is the land border too. This published boundary is a fake with no legal force...Anyway, the UK was plainly wrong to be ultra-provocative in dispute waters...

They [the British Marines] would under international law have been allowed to enter Iranian territorial waters if in “hot pursuit” of terrorists, slavers, or pirates....But they were looking for smuggled vehicles attempting to evade car duty. What has the evasion of Iranian or Iraqi taxes got to do with the Royal Navy?”

Ambassador Murray has appealed to reason and cooler heads. To state what should be the obvious, he notes it is not legitimate for the British government to draw a boundary without agreement of the countries involved.

Answer 3

Even if they were in Iranian waters that's no excuse for kidnapping the sailors there .
They could have just asked them to remove themselves .
The act of capturing these people was an act of war .
These people want a confrontation , its what they do , the iraqis did the same and paraded our people on the TV .
I dont really see that there is any way there can be a piece between these people and us.
I suppose eventually there will be an all out war and this sort of thing will bring it on .

Answer 4

Do you think the Brit's GPS was an over the counter model similar to yours?

lol

That unit probably cost $5000 minimum to ensure highly accurate positioning not only from your standard nav satellites, but also military satellites.

Also, nav satellites are in geosynchronous orbit, meaning they are stationary with regards to the rotation of the earth. There are no nav satellite "passes".

Pretty much the only thing in the sky that orbits the earth are spy satellites and the ISS.

Know what you are talking about before you blab your silliness everywhere.

Answer 5

So the military paid $5,000 for theirs. The military was paying several thousand dollars for toilet seats on aircraft!

They knew, or they should have known, that even if not in what they consider Iran space, they knew Iraq and Iran were having a battle over the rights and to automatically assume it belongs to Iraq, they could be wrong.

Why are they so close to Iran at all, close enough to get captured?

We damn sure would capture an Iranian vessel if it entered our water space, which extends artificially because the government said so, to limits generally recognized.

Were they looking to get picked up and taken hostage? Who knows, but they were not suppose to be where they were.

Other countries who do have access to those expensive GPS's won't say one way or another, though they have sided with Iran.

The world is not going to take our word, or GB's word, as it stands for absolutely nothing anymore!


Seems as everyone has forgotten that WE (the CIA) were behind terrorist attacks on Iran's own ELECTED government which was replaced with our good buddy the Shaw of Iran!

Won't be the first time we tried to overthrow governments because we have done many, including putting Saddam and Castro in power!

Answer 6

Military GPS's work of encrypted satellite signals and are constant in most parts of the world. Usually 3rd to 4th order survey is often achievable which is something like a 1.3 meter of probable error. Those are numbers you where never going to get with your civilian model.

Answer 7

I'm sure the GPS devices the British military have are far more superior to the ones you bought on the civilian market!

Answer 8

Yes, I believe the British government.

Answer 9

You are right about science and mathematics in planet of apes.
Not everyone is good or perfect with it .
But rather in making a mess with the creation of loss of peace on earth goodwill to men in planet of apes.
Ever wonder how the little children out there were not out there to look for troubles.
But simply blunders and slip-ups with human errors and lost their way home in planet of apes.
If you understand our creator's universal communication system.
Will notice their footprints that they was really lost when they were caught off guard in planet of apes.
How the dirty old men in office do not know how to solve the mess were asking those little children to solve it for them in planet of apes.
Ever wonder why must they crowned themselves as the men who would be king and do not know how to solve the mess out there in planet of apes?
Ever wonder who elected them in office to be the men who would be king and do not even know how to solve a simple mess for the good of mankind with the creation of peace on earth goodwill to men in planet of apes?