Do the liberals get it? Senate OKs war bill with Iraq timeline?

Question

Recent headlines read "Senate OKs war bill with Iraq timeline"
Do they understand what will happen if we pull out.
You can’t tell the terrorist what day they can come back in and undo everything that we have accomplished.
Plus a withdrawal before the war is won makes every soldier who lost their lives useless.
THE WAR MUST BE FOUGHT UNTIL IRAQ CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THIER COUNTRY!
Not one minute sooner.

Answer 1

No, many of them don't get it...it's easier to get one's country into one of these situations than to get out of it....on the other hand, you can't blame people for losing their patience when you look at the results to date....also, it quite clear that the Bush people "don't get it" either. What didn't they get? Glad you asked (you didn't? too bad...

----They didn't get the fact that while Saddam had to go, it was a problem that could be dealt with later, rather than sooner. At the time of the Iraq invasion, we had bigger fish to fry.

----They didn't get the fact that Saddam, thug, butcher and all around b@$t@rd that he was, actually was making things easier for us by riding herd over the Shiite majority of Iraq, and was also serving as a check and balance on Iran.

----They didn't get the fact that the number of troops to be deployed initally had to be a military, not a political decision. It appears to me as if the size of the deployment that Dubya/Rummy arrived at represented a number that they thought the public would tolerate, not what they thought they needed to get the job done.

----They didn't get the fact that the Blitzkreig-like movement toward Baghdad was an illusion. Those that were surrendering were most likely those that were fighting against their will....the devoted anti-American Muslim forces that would become the insurgency were busy melting into the general population until it was safe to come out of hiding. This is why we needed enough troops initially to secure areas once we rolled through them.

----They didn't get the fact that once the first GI set foot in Iraq, this was a real war in every sense of the word. And when you engage yourself in a war, you are in it to f***ing win it, not fight to a stalemate, not to fight so as not to offend the sensibilities of other countries, and certainly not to tailor your objectives and tactics to suit public opinion. You kill enough of the enemy and destroy enough of their resourses so that they are no longer able to do whatever it was that started the war....and that they will not resume doing more of the same afterwards. As such, before one ground troop set so much as a toenail on Iraqi soil, we should have been using our Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, etc. to absolutely level places like Fallujah, Takrit, Ramadi, and any other place that harboring those cutthroats within the Sunni Triangle....and when I say level, I mean we should have reduced every target to rubble...Dubya just didn't grasp that concept.

OK, enough Bush-bashing.....actually, I believe that we are accomplishing some good over there, and that the situations is not irrevocable lost. However, the Bush Administration has made an unholy mess of things in Iraq, and I understand how people can find the results so far over ther totally unacceptable....but you are right....leaving there with our tails between our legs is not acceptible either....here's hoping that those Democrats who believe in our mission in Iraq will step up to the plate, and the Bushies will admit that their Iraq strategy has been a disaster, and that both sides can work together to turn this mess into a positive for us.

God help us all.

Answer 2

Enough on labels "we all are the problem, we all are the solution"

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Answer 3

Undo everything we have accomplished?
Like 100000 dead Iraqis
2 million refugees,
no electricity
a state of civil war
police going on reven rampages against rival factions?

Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, where the terrorists REALLY were (and are) the Taliban is on the verge of taking over?

What will happen if we get our troops out? The same thing that's happening now--a civil war. But our troops won't be dying because Bush and his supporters aren't man enough to admit they're wrong.

And we'll be in a position to start fighting the terrorists, instead of cconquering a country that wasn't a threat to us in the first place.

DON'T YOU GET IT? The terrorists hat the idea of our leaving Iraq--because in 2009 (if not sooner) we we really be going after them. Right now, Bush is the best friend the terrorrists have got.

Answer 4

We don't have the money to continue this indefinitely, period.

Did the Brits ever militarily defeat the IRA, after decades and decades of struggle? No.

Bush has said, "we will not run from car bombers", but guess what, the car bombers aren't running either, and we have no means of defeating them because we can't find, capture or kill all of them.

We won the war when we defeated the Iraqi Army, what we are doing now is just using our troops as the police force in a lawless foreign nation with our objective being zero violence. Pointless.

And the terrorists don't have to "come back in", they're there, have always been there and aren't going anywhere.

Answer 5

My gawd are you a victim of circular logic!

Face it kid, we are only provoking more terrorism by being there. The harder you fight, the more terrorists you create. History has shown that standing armies will eventually capitulate to a guerilla enemy...he has the advantage of cover, popular support, and no responsibility to provide for security. You win wars like this through politics and negotation, not sitting around taking IEDs and sniper fire for years.

The only way we could have won Iraq is if we had overwhelming force at the very beginning (400,000 troops like Gen. Shinseki asked for and was denied). You can thank Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and the rest of the cheapskate morons in the Bush administration for this enormous strategic (sorry, strategery) failure.

It's a lost cause. The insurgency is alive and well, and isn't going to quit. The "surge" has accomplished next to nothing.

Answer 6

the U. S. has no longer declared conflict on everyone by way of fact WW2. And, that became some obscure eastern eu us of a, no longer even Japan, Germany, or Italy. BTW - If the Libya component is a conflict (very vast if), it is not a US conflict. that's a NATO conflict. We belong to NATO. hence, we help their and the UN's resolutions. yet, to respond to your question, Bush asked for the authorization to bypass to conflict with Iraq, below the pretense that the specter of conflict stands out as the only component Saddam understood so some distance as cooperating with UN weapons inspectors. Then, armed with that approval, the Bush administration invaded Iraq. yet, many in congress who approved the conflict determination reported they have been duped by utilising the Bush administration. They by no ability meant us to invade Iraq different than as a final hotel. yet, the Bush admin wanted to bypass into Iraq all alongside. examine up on the PNAC and you will learn why. Or, proceed on along with your head contained in the sand, asking inane questions which you do no longer care with regards to the answer to, besides.

Answer 7

Fact: The US so-called government is way out of control.

Fact: House representatives, Senators, and White House administrators are suppose to uphold the Constitution, where as their prime objective is to protect all US citizens from foreign and domestic aggressors, of which they are NOT doing.

Fact: No war can be won, by forcing politically correct standards upon the Military, CIA, FBI, and local law enforcement agencies... of which has been done via corrupt / seditious / treasonous politicians of both parties.

Fact: Given that our so-called governing leadership refuses to fight the war on terror in a manner of which we could be victorious within a reasonable time period, it's reasonable to withdraw our troops from Iraq within a reasonable time period, and I say this only due to the lack of leadership that has plagued our corruptament, as I call it.

Fact: Given that poles are about as accurate as Al Gores theory on "Global Warming" It's safe to assume that the majority of US citizens want to win this war, NOT run from it.

Fact: Via the mainstream media monsters, of which support the worst of the worst corrupt politicians, and the propaganda that they have been pelting the gullible lesser educated US citizens with, it is reasonable to assume that the terrorists are ecstatic with hopes that the US corruptament will eventually kow tow to their every demand as not to hurt their feelings...

Fact: Alongside just plain stupidity, Liberalism is the worst of the worst mental diseases that ever plagued the USA, and unless a cure is achieved hastily, we can all tuck our heads between our legs and kiss our own asses goodbye:(

Answer 8

I think we won the war in Iraq already. I don't really know what we've accomplished over there besides for building permanent military bases since the "Mission Accomplished" moment. I say pull back, protect the borders from foreign fighters, and let them have at it. If Iran sees this as a threat (protecting Iraq's border), screw 'em, it's aggressive to take British sailors hostage.

Answer 9

I agree with you, but the Democrats don't want to hear that....they want their bid for the White house. It isn't about the American public or the Soldiers, it's about themselves.

The Democrats don't care about the lives of me and my brothers and sisters. They figure more of us can be tossed to death when they go into Iraq for a third time.


Quick edit...

It is reversable for Republicans...they would do the same thing. Politicians don't care about Americans, just job security.

Answer 10

Do you understand that Republicans also supported the bill? Do you understand that in Iraq we are seen as infidels on their sacred land and they just want us out of there?
Do you understand that they want to live in the 14th Century?
Do you understand this is not about terrorism or insurgents as much as it is about O I L?
When will you understand that the people of that part of the world have had desputes and settled them for over 3 THOUSAND years? Why should now be any different?
Do you understand that Saddam and Osama hated each other and there was no connection between Iraq and 9/11?
Do you understand that Osama BinLaden and Al Quaeda are our enemies?
Do you understand that Saddam Hussein did not have WMD and was no threat to us even if he did?
Are you so stupid that you believe the Administration's propaganda?
When will you wake up and see what 70% of the world already has seen?