Would a pull-out in Iraq before the mission is accomplished dishonor the memories of the Americans that died?

Question

If the pull-out date is reached and our objectives are not met, does that mean America was defeated?

Answer 1

Yes. I'm glad someone gets it.

Answer 2

Tough question, in a manner of speaking, yes. America the nation supposedly set out to acheive an objective, and failed. A failure is a defeat.

However we should ask ourselves, was the mission achevable in the first place? Were we even there for what the administration and the media told us we were there for? Was it a mistake from the start?

However good the intentions of the administration were, it is obvious Iraq is in a civil war. No amount of American troops will make the two sides want to get along. They are going to kill each other regardless if we are there or not.

I say leave Iraq. It needs to govern itself. We simply cannot hold their hands forever, the cost of only 5 years of this war has already bankrupted us, can we afford 5 more? Can we stomache more casualities to fufill an objective that may never be obtianable?

Leave now, leave in 3 years, the end result is the same. All out war breaking out and another tyrant taking power, or perhaps not, maybe, just maybe, us leaving will get the government of Iraq off their fat asses and actually form a republic. Who knows, all I know is, what we are doing now, isn't working.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

No more than continuing a war indefinitely. I don't understand how their memory would be dishonored. The people that died in Vietnam are not dishonored. They built a wall for them and they are heroes. Don't confuse a failed policy with the honor of good men. Plus, I thought Bush said the mission was accomplished four years ago.

Answer 5

no more than the memory of all those that died in Vietnam in a senseless war are dishonored every day at least in this one if you have to shoot kids and women you still get to come home as a hero not like the Vietnam Vets came home and had to listen to being baby killers ect

Answer 6

For all of you that answered yes... what better way to preserve the honor of the perished than by sending more to die, just like they did. Now that, my friends, is twisted logic. And what objectives are you talking about. You republicans always talk about "meeting the goal" "accomplishing the mission" but what is that mission? To solve the problem between Sunni and Shiite Muslims? America can't solve that problem buddy, sorry.

Answer 7

I agreed with the initial war but then decided that it is going bad. But do I think we should pull out now? No way. That is Dishonor with a capital D. I may not agree with it, but we started something and we must finish it.

Answer 8

America was already defeated when we entered this war ill-prepared, ill-equipped, and ill-trained to deal with an embedded insurgency.

What will dishonor our troops is by ignoring the reality of this war--by dragging it out as long as we can; in hopes that we can somehow magically transform it into a stable democracy--at the cost of thousands of US troops' lives, and the destruction of Iraq itself.

If our objectives aren't met--and they most likely won't be--the defeat will be laid at the hands of Bush and the GOP. After all, the Democrats are only trying to fulfill the will of the people.

Answer 9

No..... America has dishonored the memories of the dead soldiers by having them die under false pretenses. Furthermore
The occupation of Iraq has no clear "objective" Pull out and never go back if you ask me.

Answer 10

i really detest this sort of choice being fabricated by people...it is a distortion of the actual choices and of cause and effect.

If you were attacking a hill that had no military use and had to retreat from withering fire...would you say this to your companions, "we have to run back up there for Bob and Joe who died yesterday."? Military people serve...that's their duty...they serve in war, peace and thru diplomatic concessions. Our policy in Iraq should not be lessened to some gut level romantic ideal out of some movie.

And...no matter how right wing political hacks try to spin it...the Democrats are not wanting to immediately remove the troops...If they could get the president to agree to 2 years, they would do it....that's 6 years in Iraq...isn't 6 years really long enough....Democrats are not saying get out now...they do want to retain some dignity.

Answer 11

The question is pointless. There will not be a pull out date. There will only be victory in the time it takes to stabilize Iraq. Occupation forces will be there for decades.

Wake up and smell the jihad.