Based on your experience, is it only the good who die young?

Question

If this was, in fact, true, is this a new incentive to rebel in early age? On an unrelated topic, what is your personal definition of modern subjectivism? Please give an example to go with your views concerning modern subjectivism?

Answer 1

the older I get, the more I think so!

Answer 2

No, there are bad who die young. The young man who blew up the Oklahoma City Federal Building, for example, Tim McVeigh.

Modern subjectivism is the modern tendency to believe that we create reality with our perceptions, specifically regarding morality.

For example, it is wrong for me to tell other people that my religion is right and there's is wrong. "Who are you", the saying goes, "to assume such a thing."

In fact, when you have religions that contradict each other, they can't both be correct. So to assume an "I'm okay, you're okay" attitude toward things like faith is wrongheaded because it gets humanity no closer to discovering Truth.

Truth is not created by us. It is discovered, but not created. Subjectivists would disagree with that, and state that Truth is in the eye of the beholder.

Answer 3

It is not the good who die young, it is the young who die good. Because the younger a person is the more often that person tends to be good. The innocence of youth is still fresh, the longer we have lived the more time we have to commit sins and do evil because almost all man is motivated by self-gain and greed and the more they live the more they will do evil for self-gain. Note that this is a generalisation there are a lot of truly wicked young people and very kind, self-sacrificing older people.

Answer 4

I recently lost my cousin(23) and her two children(4,7) in a car accident so I believe that yes the good and innocent all die young mostly in tegaic sucustances.My view on Modern Subjectivism is, well while the Renaissance, the Reformation, the discovery of the New World, the rise of Science and Capitalism, represent the external (socio-historical) determinants of Modernity, its major internal driving forces have been undoubtedly the unleashed human Subjectivity (freedom, creativity, innovation, autonomy, self-reflection) and the new spirit of Foundationalism (laying down firm and stable grounds of all human knowledge and endeavor).
Both of these trends coalesce in the pivotal point of the knowing and acting subject. The "I" (the Ego), the most compressed formula for human Subjectivity in general, becomes both the center and an all pervasive philosophical theme of Modern thought. It integrates as different contents as the Ancient concept of soul, the Medieval spirit, the Cartesian consciousness or the mind and the "transcendental apperception" of Kant. Descartes grasps the principle of subjectivity as an abstract thinking thing, while Kant conceives it as a self-relating subject that attains absolute self-consciousness. For both, the contents of our mind are the products of an active subjectivity.
The typically modern quest for the new reliable foundations manifests itself in the form of an old ontological striving - to find the first and universal principles that ground and define everything else in the structure of the whole. However, instead of searching for the first principles of being(s), modern philosophers are looking for the first principles of human knowledge. This epistemological turn away from the Ancient realist ontology of nature was performed in a ground breaking manner by Rene Descartes in his Meditations on First Philosophy (1641). A more decisive and elaborate transformation of Ancient Metaphysics (i.e., First Philosophy) into a science of a priori principles of human knowledge was subsequently carried out by Immanuel Kant in his Critique of Pure Reason (1781).
The Kantian emphasis on the necessity of new foundations was largely determined by the Cartesian project and needs to be placed into the same overall context of modern thinking. While Descartes introspectively reconstructs the contents of his consciousness Kant transcendentally reconstructs the a priori workings of the cognizing subject. Despite all the differences in their respective positions, subjectivity in Kant remains the main source of self-reflection and of a priori legislation. Kant replaces the Cartesian quest for absolute certainty with a concern for the a priori forms of intuition and understanding, but subjectivity is no less their origin for him than it was the source of certainty for Descartes.

Answer 5

I agree with Squiddy. We only realize it when the good die young because we hear of it more often, and we are actually affected by it. When we hear of the "bad" dying young, it may not stick because we do not feel emotions. Take for example the bad neighborhoods of certain regions. In these neighborhoods there is an extremely low life-expectancy. (Many times barely 21) We would usually not classify the type of people who live here as "good" people, yet they die at a very young age. It's all about what we feel, what we remember, and what affects us the most.

Answer 6

No. Some who die young are good. But we tend make the memories of all who die young good. I suppose this is sort of a blessing given to those with a short life.

Examples: 2 boys died who were in my graduating class. Both were real rascalls, and died as a direct result of poor choices. (one died playing mailbox baseball and being thrown from the truck, the other was drunk and trying to beat a train) Yet they were idealized in the yearbook pages and memories. Even truly bad behavior came to be remembered as being high spirited.

Answer 7

It was a catchy tune, but holds no weight.

I've no wish to discuss philosophy right now, so I'll politely sidestep your next question. Though the thought that this could all be a long dream is interesting....but makes you wonder who is doing the dreaming? Could be a very selfish interpretation of things.

Perhaps they don't see things like this; subjectivists conclude that reality is real but our knowledge of it is determined by the extent to which we perceive things. This is acceptable to me. Or at least I am comfortable with it.

Answer 8

No. it is not only the good who die young. That is a trite saying that negates the fact and is even insulting to those good humans who die after a lengthy and honourable life. What about Mother Teresa? And many many others.

Answer 9

No. It only seems that way because those who die young have little oppurtunity to reveal what the Shadow knows, viz: "what evil lies in the hearts of humans".

"modern subjectivism" = "a waste of time".
eg. "Answering this question at length."

Answer 10

It has been my experience that typically we as a people tend to look upon those who are younger than we are with more compassion or forgiveness. When someone dies be it younger or older I think we tend to "remember them fondly" and perhaps forget many of their short falls in life...youth is associated with all that is "good" in us... be it innocence or even wild abandon...

I'm running short on time here... darn it... but thank you for the food for thought ~

Answer 11

Hum... I think so, a boyfriend died at 17, a good guy. My mother died at 44, she was a good person. Another friend died at 35, he was a great friend.

Yet my boyfriend's mother lived to be 95 and she was a very spiritual person.....maybe it all balances out?