what do you think about feminist?

Question

I like being a woman and I don't want the same rights as men. I'm happy like that. I still want them to so the hard, heavy work. I don't think women are better than men or men are better than women. What do you think about feminist? Why are they always trying to prove women can do the same things men can? Can you, woman, do 12 hours of heavy construction work? I don't think so...

I understand that feminist did a great deal a long time ago, but today, why keep fighting to have the same rights? We can vote, we are basicly equal and life is getting really hard on women bc of that. Just leave it alone... that's what I think people!!!!

Answer 1

Feminist Mission Statement: "Find Someone Else to Blame, No Matter What."

Women have equal or greater rights and privileges than men. And they definitely have far more protections than men. The 3 levels of government (I've worked for 2 of the 3) spend many millions of dollars on women's programs.

How much is spent on men's programs? Compare the dollars. STILL, the feminists complain about how government ignores women's needs. So much for "equal treatment."

Personal Responsibility. What's THAT!?!?!

According to feminists, problems that women experience are NEVER their own doing. Never the result of choices that she herself made.

Not her fault that she's a single mother with several children and has never been married. Nope, that's OUR fault. We must stop the blatant discrimination that puts her in poverty.

Not her fault that she chose to lower paying job than her brother and therefore there is a wage gap between the siblings. Nope, that's this "patriarchal society's" fault.

Not the result of her own free choice that she CHOSE to take a few years off work to care for small children and did not advance (as fast) in her career during that time as her peers (including in wages). Nope, that's pure and simple discrimination of this patriarchal society. It doesn't value women's contributions.

Wouldn't feminist organizations do more good if they focused on helping women help themselves by making more informed choices and understanding that our decisions today may have long term implications? Rather than, looking under every rock to find someone else to blame?

Answer 2

I'm not a huge fan of man-hating feminists because hey, we all got problems. However, I believe in equal rights across the board. Women are different than men and it's not that I want to get a construction job or something, but the second they say I can't and that I'm not allowed to try, I have a problem with that. Men and women do not get the same wage; I have a BIG problem with that. If I'm doing as much work as a man in the same position, I should get the same pay. It's not about men and women doing the same things. It's about being allowed to do the same things. If a man wants to stay at home and raise his family, fine, why should I have a problem with that.

Answer 3

There are women out there who can do 12 hours of heavy construction work. There are women weight lifters,amazing women soldiers, welders,fire fighters, police officers, etc. There are also male flight attendants,child care workers,nurses,fashion designers, etc. So really men and women can do the same kind of jobs. Not all men are really strong, not all women are frail.
I do think some feminists go too far when they compare all men the same saying stuff like all men only want sex, all men want women to stay at home and have kids, etc. I also think it's a little overboard when they get upset when a guy opens the door for them and stuff like that. Just say thank you. Next time, open the door for him, big deal.

Answer 4

I have come to realize a couple things, after spending some time here in Women’s study. First, that about 60% of the questions are intended to offend the women who like to spend time here. Second, that I will feel personally attacked on at least a daily basis (usually closer to once for every 20 minutes on the site). Third, that people have no idea what feminism really is.

You say you like being a woman - great so do I (I hope all women are happy being women). You say you don’t want the same rights as a man – I say great to that too, it is your right (as a women) to choose what you want. You say women are no better then men and men are no better then women – exactly, that is what feminists have been saying. And, like one other answer said not all feminists are females (I have two male friends that consider themselves feminists).

The only thing we don’t agree on is that women can’t handle manual labor. Myself I do field and laboratory work – nothing that is like heavy manual labor, but I know several females that do quite well in traditionally male fields (one that is a machinist in a foundry, one that remodels homes and one that does road construction). So the issue here is that you don’t think YOU could do heavy construction work but that doesn’t mean that all women can’t. Although I must admit I know many women who wouldn’t be able to handle heavy manual labor, but I also know many men that wouldn’t be able to handle it either. Remember not all men fit your “manly” ideal just as not all women fit your “feminine” ideal.

Answer 5

First of all, I don't believe that you are a woman, and I don't believe that if you were a woman you would be willing to give up your right to vote, to own property or to be protected from domestic abuse.

Regardless of my opinion, here is my answer:

While significant achievements have been made for women, we must remember that these achievements are recent relative to world history, and that the possibility exists for our current rights to be revoked.

Feminists remain outspoken now to retain the rights they have achieved because in the relatively short time we have enjoyed these rights, there has always been opposition to us having them, and there are still those people who would take them away if they could.

Many anti-feminist arguments I have seen blur the lines between RIGHTS and ROLES. Voting is a right, owning property is a right, legal protection from an abusive spouse or domestic partner is a right. These are human rights which were denied to women throughout most of history.
Activites such as lifting heavy objects or designing a bridge or caring for children or teaching English are ROLES.
Prior to the women's rights movement, many roles were rigidly defined for a person of a specific gender, not by law so much as by convention. But it was the change in legal rights that opened the door to changing these conventional roles. Anti-discrimination laws followed when women were denied oportunities they had the legal right to pursue, but were denied because it was unconventional.

Although there are still many people who choose to live in conventional ROLES, their choices do not justify removing the human RIGHTS women worked so hard to attain.

Answer 6

Actually, we're not equal just yet. A little known fact is that there isn't an amendment that states women must get equal pay to men. Companies who know this (and there are many) tend to pay women less than men.

Also, Feminist are misunderstood. They're fighting for our rights to choose what we want in life. We no longer have to get married and be a mother if we chose not to be. If we do choose to work as a construction worker, we can. We have the right to choose. That is the greatest gift feminists have given us.

Answer 7

I read an article some once on this subject and have placed it here. It is from a man named Dennis Prager and I hope it helps you with some answers.

The ending of sex-based roles, probably the major goal of feminism, has brought some blessings, but it has also harmed countless lives. Roles, to use the most venerated word in feminism, empower both sexes.


As much as feminists may disdain the roles of mother or wife, those roles have bestowed power as well as meaning and satisfaction on the vast majority of women in history.


When all is said and done, heading a home and being married to a good man are far more satisfying to most women than college teaching or corporate work. The ending of women's roles has left innumerable women more free to choose their life's course, but often less happy and, yes, less powerful. Roles empower (as well as constrain) people.


Women derive power from feminine roles, and men derive power from masculine roles. At the core of feminism is an envy of male roles and power and a belief that women should have the same. But, as a recent New York Times Magazine cover story noted, women graduates from Ivy League universities are increasingly leaving the corporate world to raise families. Having the same power as men did not fulfill these women.


Now, the third reason. With no feminine role to aspire to, many young women feel powerless. The one area of power left for them is sexual. The more a young woman has bought into feminist notions of equality (i.e., the sexes are essentially the same and there is no such thing as a woman's role), the more she is likely to flaunt her sexual power. It is the only power left to her. This helps explain why female students at Harvard — among the highest achieving young women in the country — have just launched a magazine featuring Harvard women posing nude.

Answer 8

Feminsts are brainwashed individuals OR sociopathic man-haters. There is not middle ground as far as I'm concerned.
As a group, their aim is to make women superior to men in all legal matters and to a large portion, has been achieved.

Tire chic: Do you mean equal outcome or equal opportunity? Just having a job does not mean being worthy. Between two individuals, the one producing more and better should receive the benefit of increase and promotion, not necessarily based on political force.

Wendy: Contrary to your belief, women did not give women the right to vote, men did with the ratification of the 19th amendment... you know, BEFORE women could vote, that allowed women to vote nationwide. Without men voting in favor of it, women would still not be voting.
Women have been working for wages for as long as there have been women. The more or less recent upsurge in women in the workplace is a societal change, not something feminism has done. In fact, everything you have listed is history, whether accomplished by feminism or not so what is feminism trying to accomplish today, now?
What is feminism doing to make the VAWA (Violence Against Women Act) into a VAPA (Violence Against People Act)? (HINT: nothing, men are not a concern of feminsm)
What stance does feminism have in reference to paternity fraud? (Hint: again, feminism is not concerned with men or the bad treatment they receive) Does feminism demand that the best parent obtain custody in divorce or never married situations or just mothers? (Hint: No, feminism is only concerned with women and their advancement)
All the hints should show you that feminism is not about equality but solipism.

Answer 9

Some women CAN do 12 hours of heavy construction work. By no means are we suggesting that all women are capable of this and should do so. Feminism is about more than physical strength, and you know it. And where did you get the idea that equality has made things worse for us? All studies indicate that the original goals of feminism — employment, voting, etc. — have made us happier than ever.

Answer 10

Do you have a job?
Do you want a job?
Do you want a job that would allow you to support yourself if something happened to your husband?
Do you vote?
Do you want to vote?
Do you have an education?
Do you want an education?
Do you own property, credit cards, or a bank account?
Do you want to be able to own property, a credit card, or a bank account?

If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, then you have feminists to thank for it.
Even if you answered "no" to all of them, those choices are still there for you...ya know, just in case you change your mind.
And whether you "want them" or not, those rights are there for you to enjoy, and I bet you would miss them if they were suddenly taken away.
Oh, and YOU may not want to have "the same rights", but others do, and why look down on them for that?

EDIT--"Phil #3"-Women campaigned and fought for the right to vote...it wasn't "given" out of the clear blue sky. So feminism actualized it, just as the Equal Rights Movement brought about change for black people in America.
And yes, women have been working "as long as there have been women"...women worked in the fields, and when the industrial revolution came about, women went right into the factories alongside their husbands (and often their children). Yet women were paid less than half what the men were...little better than what children were paid. This "legacy" of lower pay for women lasted well into the twentieth century. So of course, women worked, but we were only allowed to apply for certain jobs, and that was a short, low paying list. Even as recently as the seventies, "wanted" ads for jobs listed desired gender...and guess who was "desired" for the high paying, "desirable" jobs?
And everything else you said is your personal opinion, (and incorrect, in my opinion).

And "Brian J."--NOW IS lobbying to have women eligible for selective service.
And there aren't that many educated, American men who want to take those "hazardous jobs," either. It's not exactly the "American Dream" is it? Unless YOU work on an oil rig, who are you to point the finger?
And maybe you've never dated a woman who has picked up the tab, but I bet it's because you've never dated a feminist. THEY do pick it up.