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I think the Ultimate question is not if "God" exists........it is what existed before "GOD" ?
If the universe and everything in it ,( the planets, stars,Galaxy's,matter, inert and animated things), simply came about by something like the "Big Bang" and simply "is", then even in that scenario it all began from "something".
Yet when someone suggests that , that "something" is called "God"
The question still remains....What, or Who "created" GOD?

I think the true question and answer ,
is if you believe that "God" doesn't exist, then from what did the universe originate? - Big Bang...then from which did that originate?
If you believe that that "God" does exist then ... where did God originate from?

So my conclusive answer is that "God" does exist on some level , but that by considering my logic above, it proves God does not exist as we have been conditioned to understand "God"
Because if God is considered the creator of heaven and earth ... then who is "Gods" ...GOD?

2007-03-27 21:34:40 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

16 answers

Nothing created God. He just was and is and always will be. God has no origin. He is.

2007-03-27 21:42:56 · answer #1 · answered by Iron What? 6 · 1 0

Friend,

I am answering this question from a Christian perspective.

If you ask the question "Who or what came before God", you will never find a satisfactory answer.

You see, there HAS to be a starting point. If God is not that starting point, then why stop regressing at any point? You can keep going backward, asking what created the creator of God, and what created that, and so forth. It has no reason to end.

Nor does the spontaneity of the Big Bang theory work on its own. Things do not merely happen, whether billions of years or a few seconds pass. An object at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. That "outside force" must be God.

If you accept God as the Creator of everything that there is, then it becomes clear. God is. There was never a time when God wasn't.

This must be true, or else you have no reason to stop regressing and asking what created what. Once you reach the beginning, there is God; and at the end, God is still there. Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

The humbling thing about all this is, God chose to condescend to our minds and understanding, revealing Himself to us, in the form of a Man, the Lord Jesus Christ. Even though we don't understand everything about God, we have the opportunity to get to know Him.

May God bless you.

2007-03-28 04:55:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You're asking this question from your perspective of modern science and conventional philosophy.

Just asking the question what existed before the universe automatically makes you assume there is nothing else in existence but the universe.

Think infinite regression parodied in countless movies and cartoons - when the camera continues to zoom out and the world and the universe gets smaller and smaller and eventually the big picture is a drop of water, a snow globe, a hair on the crack of some guys ***...it doesn't really matter what it is, but the point is self evident - maybe our universe is simply a minuscule part of a larger universe, which is a minuscule part of a larger universe, which is then apart of yet a larger universe, etc etc.

Same goes for the question of God...get a different perspective on God and find a different answer....maybe another God created our God?

2007-03-28 08:00:53 · answer #3 · answered by Paul K 2 · 0 0

Great... my Star question!!

Yes, indeed, the ultimate question is regarding THE VERY BEGINNING of it all!!

We can not find an answer to this so long as we assume that everything is caused by something else... which is how we know all that we know within this time dimension..... where every cause precedes the effect and effect follows a cause. In order to comprehend the VERY ORIGIN, we need to conceptualize timelessness or eternal existence which has no beginning nor any end. In other words, we can not understand the beginning of it all because we have to assume there are possibilities of existence without any beginning...... the closest we can get to is a cyclical continuum like the outer surface of a spherical object or the circumference of a circle drawn on a paper, which has no starting or ending point even though it exists and has dimension.

2007-03-28 05:08:59 · answer #4 · answered by small 7 · 1 0

Well one possibility is that the same answer could be applied to both questions. If in fact the concepts of infinity and eternity are a matter of fact, then couldn't it be possible that in both cases they just always were? Some argue that God is eternal and has always existed. Couldn't this idea of eternal existence also be applied to the eternal existence of matter and the universe? Scientists hypothesize that the Big Bang is cyclical, the universe expands until it collapses then re-emerges again through a Big Bang. Couldn't it be possible that this cycle has always existed?
From another angle could it not be possible that BOTH God and the Big Bang are valid arguments? The Bible says God created the universe it doesn't go into detail as to how he did it. The two are not necessarily exclusive. Perhaps God is responsible for the Big Bang.

2007-03-28 04:46:30 · answer #5 · answered by PeaceFrog 2 · 2 0

You raise a very interesting question, however, it is contigent on how you define God's existence in relation to his essential nature. If God is asserted to be eternal, then there never was a time when God was not, and this renders your question about what existed before God to be moot. If God is eternal, then nothing that now exists preceded God's existence, in fact, nothing in a worldly sense that could exist would have preceded God's existence.

The materialist would proably assert that the universe, in some form always existed, and therefore had no need of creation or a Creator. This is one the moves of modern rationalism which takes qualities attributed to the God of classical Christian theism, and simply assigns them to a material reality, negating the need for God to be the explanation for questions in regards to the origin and nature of the cosmos. If you are trying to demonstrate a kind of rational proof for God's existence, a materialist is simply going to take the wind out of the sails of your argument by simply asserting that matter, in some form, always existed and therefore a reference to a God or to a creation is not really necessary in terms of insight into why things are or how the universe came to be. It seems to me that you have a preliminary question to ask: Whether material reality can be properly thought of as being eternal? If you can answer this question, you will have a response to the materialist objection. Once you've done this intellectual work, then you can move to the questions of God's existence, what would constitute those aspects of God's essential nature, and the relation of God to the material universe.

2007-03-28 10:01:08 · answer #6 · answered by Timaeus 6 · 0 0

I have become acquainted with two main ideas related to this:

1) NOTHING existed before the universe. This does not mean that there was an very long period of time of nothingness before the universe was created, because time did not exist. We just need to consider the statement, "nothing exists" and see that it is not logical. Our sense of logic seems to derive from the principles of which the universe operates on, so it could be enough to say that the universe exists for this reason.

2) The oscillating model of the universe says that the history of the universe is an infinite cycle of big bangs (expansion) and big crunches (contractions), which seems to correspond with the cyclic processes at various microcosmic scales within the universe.

Discard Judeo-Christian 'cosmology'

2007-03-28 05:06:25 · answer #7 · answered by Sorrowful W 2 · 0 0

There is a concept, starting with Aristotle and Plato, and in our western tradition highlighted by Thomas Aquinas, of the "First Cause."

What this means is that by definition, God simply exists, and doesn't have a cause. He (or She or It) is the ultimate cause of everything else in the Universe. God, then, IS the cause of everything else, and doesn't have a maker. In this philosophical argument, the word "God" represents the ultimate source of everything . . . period.

If you are using a concept of God that didn't exist at some time and that has a "cause," you are not really dealing with "God" as that concept has been generally understood in Western Philosophy under the the "First Mover" argument.

In terms of your statement, the being you label "God's God" is the one who would be the "First Mover" -- and therefore would be covered by the philosophical concept of God.

2007-03-28 12:07:43 · answer #8 · answered by snowlan 2 · 0 0

You have got my star for this question!!!

And I exatly think the same as Small.... but I will put shorter:

We have to stop thinking that God or the thing that created all, is subject to time... We have to think about something without a beggining or an end....

And that... goes beyond and beyond what we now understand... because the only thing capable of this is in fact the creator.... like small said... just like the surface of the spherical shape... never ending.. without a beggining or an end....

Hope that helps!

CHRIS

2007-03-28 22:17:41 · answer #9 · answered by CRA 3 · 0 0

Whoa! To try to tackle THAT mystery is like an ant trying to have his own Yahoo answers profile.

All we know is that if you believe God exists and that He is the perfect being, He is eternal and not bound by time as we know it.

Who or what brought Him into existence? No one can know or fully comprehend. It's like trying to ask a child's drawing to understand the child. Try asking Him though. He's always been good with answers anyway.

Unanswerable but fascinating question.

2007-03-28 04:47:10 · answer #10 · answered by Studier Alpha 3 · 2 0

perhaps i would ask another question...
why we r here in this world?... then...


u see if we get to know all this,then there won't be any need for us to be here ....

i think man is on mision to get to the most root part of the tree...
(i hope u understand the binary tree or see tree theory in maths).
there is a root node we know all the leaf node's i.e. like what world is created of?, what we are ?, and many such questions and thier ans we know....

but to get to root node is our quest , and when we get that world is gonna end there wont be any more quest,thier wont be any struggle for anything since we will understand everything,no reason to live if we find the root truth...

so ultimately if u r really interesting to find answer's .... u really wanna see tha end...
u should ask "Why?" and "how?" not "who?"......

2007-03-28 04:56:27 · answer #11 · answered by Spydaios_Theos 2 · 0 0

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