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Hey help me i have a debate on that we should have perfomance based pay for teachers. I'm in the negetative team and i'm the first speaker.
Or give me the site

2007-03-27 21:06:40 · 10 answers · asked by miz_unik 1 in Education & Reference Teaching

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I hate the idea of using mandated tests as the only way to to rate a teacher's performance. There are many factors that go into how well a student will perform on a test. Poor students tend to do worse on tests than wealthier students. Immigrant students may not be able to read in English even if they can speak it. How well can they do on the test if they can't understand the questions? In my city the Spanish speaking immigrant population jumped 11% between 1990-2000. That's a lot of kids whose first language isn't English. Also, we know from the SATs, that tests have a tendency to be biased in nature, usually against students of poorer areas. After all, middle and upper class areas have the resources to upgrade reading materials and technical equipment. Poorer areas are lucky to have enough books to go around and they might be out-of-date. I've known students who had to pay for their own textbooks ($175 each year) even though it was public school. I thought that was crazy. The only books I ever paid for were my French workbooks ($10 each over 4 years) and that was only because other students couldn't use them after me.

If you are going to pay a teacher based on their performance more factors need to be looked at other than federally or state mandated tests. Classroom observation, student evaluations, faculty evaluations, and lesson plan evaluations should be considered along with the test scores when rating a teacher based on their pay.

2007-03-28 03:30:04 · answer #1 · answered by Laoshu Laoshi 5 · 0 1

The method to determine the performance is what? to give the students a test? OK, so the teacher will only teach what is going to be on the test? and the students learn nothing in the process except how to take a test. the students perform well on the test and it appears they are smart, but in fact when they try to enter college they will be idiots, but the teachers will score high and be paid well.
This type of system just does not work.
What if the teacher has several tards in the classroom??
What if most are exceptional students??
Is it fair to pay a teacher less because a kids parents took drugs during pregnancy and caused the kid to be a tard?

2007-03-27 21:18:56 · answer #2 · answered by Jo Blo 6 · 1 1

here is a bone to play with:

Teacher A teaches Home Ed. It is not a hard class so everyone passes with a B or an A. Everyone is happy cause they got a good grade, however did the class teach them what they need in life. (Hard Home ed. classes do teach things from check book balancing to cooking)

Teacher B teaches a math class. Most people do poorly in it and grades run from F to B. However the teacher is going by the book and working with the students as best he can, however many are over their heads.

By performance teacher A gets a raise for doing an easier job and teacher B does not for teaching a very hard subject.

2007-03-27 21:20:11 · answer #3 · answered by Carl P 7 · 0 1

Teachers are different from teacher to teacher..on the basis of subject, style of teaching(rarely knowledge).
Thus judging the performance of teacher shall be very difficult(it shall be very subjective)For eg:
If students rate teachers, a teacher who is very strict might not be liked by the students, even though its the students' own good.

If the teacher is judged on the basis of his/her students' marks, the teacher shall give more marks(not illegally but very leniently for a higher pay.

Moreover, a teacher might be better than another but all teachers try their best to teach well. The better or worse may depend on factors like luck, experience, knowledge, etc.

2007-03-27 21:18:35 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1.Performance based pay is good for the peformers who take up the challenge.
2.Performance based pay cannot be attributed 100% it can be to the extent of 10% max. Which can be paid in the year end only.
3.Given a school no one is excellent and and there may be poor and very poor also. Hence depending upon the % of pass the 10% can be paid in terms of % of pass

2007-03-27 23:02:52 · answer #5 · answered by suryanarayanan u 3 · 0 1

well my cousin teaches second grade and since the 'no child left behind' thing came up, they got rid of the special ed. classes at her school and guess what? she got all the special ed. kids in her class... she has 4 students that are passing and only 8 that she thinks has potential to learn the subjects... it's not her fault that the kids she has don't have the ability to learn what's presented to them and if she were paid on performance or rather what her test scores are going to look like she taught the kids.. that would stink because it's not going to reflect whats really going on

2007-03-27 21:14:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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2016-09-05 18:44:25 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

<>Uh oh! Guess somebody should have prepared. I think what we're seeing here is a negative viewpoint for performance-based students! :)

2007-03-27 21:10:31 · answer #8 · answered by druid 7 · 0 1

u should be on the positive site but if still u r on the -ve side i can say u nothing if u want +ve side answers mail me at shlok_95@yahoo.co.in

2007-03-27 21:11:57 · answer #9 · answered by shlok_95 2 · 0 1

surly you must have views on this. sit down and think about it and say exactly what you feel.

why talk about what other people feel. you will do far better if you talk about your own opinions.

2007-03-27 21:10:38 · answer #10 · answered by looby 6 · 0 1

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