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Interestingly, the burden of proof is no longer on the "conspiracy theorists" but on those who have stood by the government's official claim that 19 hijackers with plastic box-cutters financed by Bin Laden, out smarted the CIA, FBI, NSA, FAA, The Pentagon, and our Multi Trillion Dollar High Tech Military by crashing 4 planes without any intervention.

The following is fact and is irrefutable:

FACT: Bin Laden is NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. Check out the FBI web site. Reason? They don't have sufficient evidence to convict him. Perhaps this is why Bush said he really doesn't care if we catch him or not.

FACT: There are hundreds of televised claims from the morning of the attacks saying that witnesses heard or felt explosions prior to the collapse of the towers. These include firefighters, police, news reporters, security guards, employees of the WTC and civilians.

FACT: 47 story - WTC 7, we are told, collapsed from fire alone. This was unprecedented for a concrete and steel frame building. Furthermore, it fell symmetrically at free fall speed. Science and deductive reasoning will easily support the cause of this collapse as DEMOLITION. Fire does not have the energy to do this. Besides, Larry Silverstein declared on TV that they “pulled” building 7.

FACT: The steel from WTC was shipped overseas before an investigation was even opened. This is the greatest destruction of evidence and malpractice in the history of forensics.

FACT: Thousands of first responders have been afflicted and some have even died from respiratory failure. The government will not support investigations into the many reports which show that these heroes have micronized steel, glass, and concrete in their lungs. Fire, and the collapse from gravity would not produce this type of dust. Demolitions, however, supports the evidence.

FACT: We were told that NORAD didn't intercept any of the planes that day. This spans from about 8:24 A.M, the time of the first report of a hijacking, to 10:06, when the last plane crashed in Shanksville Penn. NORAD has a prior track record of intercepting planes within minutes. Standard Operating Procedure was not followed that day. The Bush Administration changed their story several times. We must also look at the fact that President Bush ordered Cheney to take control over NORAD the morning of the attacks.

FACT: The investigation into 9/11 was initially opposed by the Bush Administration. The 9/11 families pressed for one. They got it, but with remarkable conditions. The total costs of the investigation, including the NIST report, was only $16 million. The cost to investigate the Space Shuttle crash - $50 million. The cost to investigate Clinton - $42 million. In other words, the greatest failure of our defenses deserved less money than the shuttle and Clinton's perjury. What an insult to the 9/11 families and the loss of their loved ones.

FACT: No one has been fired for the failures of 9/11.

FACT: Right before the attack a spike in “put options” on Boeing, United Airlines, and American Airlines increased dramatically and was never investigated. Millions are still unclaimed. This indicates people knew in advance. Why didn’t the FBI check out these leads?

FACT: In August 6, 2001 A Public Daily Briefing Memo that was titled BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US was brought forward. Yet prior to its declassification, we were told by Rice and Fleisher that there were no warnings. Had this news been made public, couldn't travelers, law enforcement, and airline workers have been a little more guarded or informed to notice something that day? Wouldn't we have guessed right away that the first report of a hijacking was indeed a terrorist? Or would we have dismissed it as "one bad pilot" and continued to read "My Pet Goat" while America was attacked?

FACT: When the United States is under attack the first measure is to secure the President.
The entire nation knew 2 weeks in advance that President Bush would be at Booker Elementary Grade School. Why did his body guards and secret service men let him remain at this location for 20 minutes after the attack? Holding the book “My Pet Goat” upside down while he tried to address a bunch of 5th grade students?

The bottom line is - If the deaths of 3000 people occurred under the control of a corporation, people would have been brought up on charges of criminal negligence. Immediately! Despite the growing movement and mounting evidence into the WTC collapses, the government still has made up its mind that it is fire that brought these buildings down and that 9/11 was simply a failure of imagination. They feel no one is to blame. This was the conclusion they had prior to the investigation. What the 9/11 Commission produced is the anti-thesis of the scientific method. Much of the evidence was outright omitted. Since they determined the conclusion prematurely. Do you understand?

If you were an underwriter at an insurance company, or an architectural engineer, or a fire marshal, wouldn't you want to know what really happened in these buildings? If you were a pilot, or an FAA employee, wouldn't you want to know which NORAD employee stood down, failed to requisition intervention or just plain messed up that day?

To dismiss the overwhelming evidence that explicitly shows how hundreds of questions remain unanswered suggests a cover-up by our government. Conservative thinking has taught us to keep government in check 100% of the time.

More and more people are joining the 9/11 truth movement. We are unstoppable. To deny the smidgeon of facts presented here and the many others unmentioned is akin to being like those who have denied the Holocaust. It's intellectually dishonest.

Go ahead and give this a thumbs down if your Patriotism is of the cheapest kind. Yours is the kind that our forefathers would have laughed at. They demanded that we question authority, as they did. Our Constitution provides us with the means to explore the truth and to keep the government in check. But even the Constitution has been threatened as of late.

So, give it a thumbs down if you wish to cling to your Cheap Patriotism and your unconditional loyalty to a President and a Government that has demonstrated nothing but contempt for Accountability, Truth, Constitution, and most importantly - the 9/11 victims, their families and surviving rescue workers who continue to suffer the loss of their loved ones.

Peace, may the truth be brought forward and the guilty be brought to justice.

2007-03-27 18:02:02 · 8 answers · asked by Surfer Dude 2 in News & Events Current Events

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I agree. And yes, to answer your question, I have seen those facts.

2007-03-27 18:13:19 · answer #1 · answered by Jesus W. 6 · 3 4

Thumbs down

Those are not facts. Period. I will refute them each in turn however for validity.

1. BinLaden is indeed wanted by the FBI. Go to the FBI's most wanted list. He is the world's most wanted terrorist!

2. Secondary fuel explosions are common in situations of plane impacts. Which is most likely what was heard. If those reports are reliable, for every person who claims that they did hear them there are three that did not.

3. FIre and heat can indeed cause a metal and steel skyscraper to fall. In fact it has happened before. The building did not fall at free-fall speeds either. If you pay close attention to demolition videos they don't fall at free-fall either, demolition collapses as they fall by destabilizing the lower support structure. This is not how the WTC buildings collapsed.


4. The greatest malpractice in the history of forensics? No. Also the wreckage was not shipped overseas. The wreckage was stored on an american held ocean based vessal to prevent tampering while the site was excavated.

5. I do not know where you are getting your information but ANY collapsing building will cause that kind of dust, It is caused when the materials break down from impact stress. It happens in very old buildings to the people inside when they begin to shift in California all the time and this is before the collapse, or demolitions.

6. NORAD has only intercepted planes that were near Cheyenne Mtn. within minutes. None of these planes were in the vicinity of the area. Cheney also never took over NORAD Cheney does not have the authority (even with presidential backing) to take over the organization. Where are you getting this from? There are blatant lies.

7. Really? $16 million? Funny... Why so low... Oh right... The Space Shuttle costs were also including the salvaging of the craft. Which was spread over a much much further area. The govt. didn't pay for the WTC disaster as it was not govt. property. There were insurance policies that handled a large part of the cleanup bill.

8. You don't get fired because your country was attacked by terrorists. Why would they be fired? Nobody was found at fault.

9. The FBI didn't check the leads because it is a seasonal thing. Every year at that time there are mass numbers of cancellations. That year was actually lower than the one in 1999.

10. Bin Laden was determined to strike the US tons of times. But wait... Your "facts" also state that Bin Laden didn't do it... So if that is so then that memo is meaningless... Unless he did plan and do it... Which means that your first argument is meaningless. Your own freaking information is conflicting.

11. Because the attack was over, in a different area, and there were no planes in the sky anywhere near him? I guarantee if there was a plane heading for booker the pres would have been out lickity split. BTW he wasn't holding the book upside down, the fact that you fire such insults just invalidates your points. Well it would invalidate them more if your points made any sense.

Again. There were no firings because unlike a company who would be negligent for an accident caused by their own carelessness this was a TERRORIST ATTACK and thus the only people to blame ARE the terrorists. Why don't you get that?

Look... There is one fact that you are overlooking... THE most important fact actually... Our government is not stupid. They have been doing cover-ups for a very long time. If they wanted to cause the 9-11 attack they could have done so much easier than you are making it seem.

They would have just put someone (a single operative) in deep cover in Al-Queda, given him orders to arrange them to get the information and planning needed to complete this attack, and let them attack. They wouldn't need to cover up anything because there would be no point. The fact that not all the pieces fit together just proves that it wasn't a cover up. If it was it would be the worst cover up in history.

2007-03-28 03:42:30 · answer #2 · answered by Henry W 3 · 3 5

Too much stuff, but one thing I spotted.

FBI is domestic intelligence agency. CIA deal with international suspects have jurisdiction beyond USA borders, over seas.
FBI most wanted lists are meant to get help from public within USA border. Anyone inside USA help catch Osama? He's in freakin Afghan some where.

You do know FBI are interested in criminals inside the US.
Or don't you? They'll help CIA and aid in war on terror. Their main duty is to catch suspects inside the US.

It is FBIs who can cris cross state borders within the US and it is CIA who operate over seas and beyond US border lines.

Saddam wasn't on that list, or thousands of other criminals abroad residing outside USA soil.

Do we really need to put Osama on most wanted list to educate people? Common.

And we don't have thumbs down option for questions.

That's funny though they went through all that trouble setting up death of 3000, but made Saudi hijackers instead of Iraqi hijackers. I think that would have saved lot of trouble with that whole WMD case. You know what I mean.

http://www.debunking911.com/

My question to you is...
If you're now officially skeptic of our own gov why do you blindly trust these other guys? What makes them so special? What if their facts are wrong and you just don't know it? After all you trusted our gov until now.

2007-03-28 01:10:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

FALSE: Osama Bin Laden is on the FBI's site, he even made two top ten lists, including a number 1 spot:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm

I'd go through the rest, but you're just regurgitating Fahrenheit 9/11 and its been refuted over and over again.

2007-03-28 01:42:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Hi I'm Scottish and this has made some interesting reading.

2007-03-28 08:34:09 · answer #5 · answered by Mea 5 · 1 0

THUMBS DOWN .Those aren't facts - It's called a conspiracy theory . Why has no-one on earth blamed G.W. Bush for bombing the WTC the first time on Clinton's watch ? For the same reason Republicans didn't accuse Clinton of doing it - TERRORISM .
Your STORY doesn't hold water .

2007-03-28 01:15:32 · answer #6 · answered by missmayzie 7 · 3 8

FACT: your diatribe is not a question so it can not be answered.

2007-03-28 01:33:45 · answer #7 · answered by Homeless in Phoenix 6 · 2 3

please seek help for your own good.

2007-03-28 01:43:19 · answer #8 · answered by patriot07 5 · 1 6

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