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Some say that there weren't 6 million Jews in Europe.
Others say that there were 'waiting lists' for the victims to be inducted into concentration camps and that these were so long that the period of extermination would had to have been much longer for the accepted death count to be true.

Any others that have been propounded by important names, or might seem convincing to some?

2007-03-27 00:39:47 · 7 answers · asked by Sorrowful W 2 in Arts & Humanities History

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"It's always the winner of the war who writes the history. That the freemason Roosevelt, who was President in the USA during the war, knew in good time that the Japanese planned to bomb Pearl Harbor, but didn't do anything to stop it, is something the revisionists have for a long time exposed. The same is considered of Germany's so-called Jewish elimination. The Jew elimination at the end of the 2nd World War is both deliberate and
disproved, so what shall we believe is entirely up to ourselves. I won't claim that they didn't gas any Jews, but I will take a position strongly
doubting that they gassed over 6 million of them, or as many a number near it! Actually I will claim that is a lie!
Why? 1st I know that the winner wrote the history to their benefit, 2nd is that Europe swarms of Jews today (if there was over 6 million Jews in Europe than I understand today why there are so many anti-Semites left) for the 3rd there is 8 million Jews in the USA who for the majority have polish or German last names (where did they come from? Did they pop out of thin air or fly to USA before the war? So they weren't gasses anyway) for the 4th I have problems understanding how the Germans should manage to gas 6 million people in a year (it began in March 1944 or April and ended in Sept. or Oct. the same year because the gas they used was Zyklon B, a gas which gives serious injury if you get in on your bare skin, and the gas chamber cannot be entered for at least 24 hours after it's used (they claim that new loads of Jews were gassed every 20 minutes)). I have myself seen "the true stories" which have been cinematized and how the Germans open the containers the gas was kept in with a bayonet without having gloves on their hands and dressed only in a miserable gas mask. This is ludicrous! In the same film, the "true" story, the SS officers were entertained by gypsies and gypsy music.
When we know that gypsy music was strongly forbidden (and we know that SS men were actually those who didn't break this rule) so we say little about how truthful this "true" story must be ( I think of the film "Kjemp eller di" fight or die) If you have 15 gas chambers (the Germans didn't have this many at once) and gas 200 in each chamber every day for half a year (about 185 day) you totally gas (15 x 200 x 185 = 555,000) 555,000 people. That the Germans managed to gas 6 million Jews in this time is beyond all logic! Even
German effectiveness has its limits. Besides, if these camps were elimination camps, then why did it swarm of Jews after the war which tells us that they had been in elimination camps? If they spoke the truth, they ought to be dead themselves, if not then it's impossible for them to have
been elimination camps! And if they say that they stood on a "waiting list" to be gassed it means that it took longer to gas them, and then it can be
impossible that the Germans had managed to gas 6 million in such a short time! The lies are contradictions! Spare us their ludicrous lies.
Another thing is the Jews. What did the Jews actually do during the war, aside form being gassed? If 6 million Jews died and all were gassed, what
actually did these who weren't? They sat at home and talked money while their brothers were gassed? I can believe that 6 million Jews died during
the war, but I also think that consists of all who died of old age, sickness, hunger, work accidents, other accidents, in the war as soldiers who fought against the 3rd Reich, of suicide and other things. Accurately such as the other people died in the war, and in peace also, with the exception of those who died as soldiers. They were at any rate, not gassed, as stated from the ally's side, mostly from the Jews own side!
According to the report from the Red Cross about 120,000 Jews died in German concentration camps and all died of sickness and hunger (which all struggled with in Germany at the time) I believe this, but I believe not that 6 million were gassed!
It seems as if the Germans had pity for the dead to absolutely all Jews who died in the period from 1939 to 1945. Do you believe in the Jewish
elimination? Then you must also not believe that a single Jew died for any other reason from 1939-45, is there anything to believe?"

Translated from Norwegian

2007-03-27 11:35:04 · answer #1 · answered by Sorrowful W 1 · 1 1

There's only one reason why people deny the Holocaust: they hate Jews. I know that not only Jews were killed, but people deny it because of the Jews. The "professional" Holocaust deniers are neo-Nazis and Islamic fanatics. Others might possibly deny it due to ignorance but the ones who make the Holocaust denial propaganda are antisemites.

If they say there weren't six million Jews in Europe before the Holocaust, this is just a lie. The Jewish population of Europe was estimated 9.5 million in 1933 and 3.5 million in 1945:

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005161
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005687

As for the second "reason" you give, yes the Nazis made lists of their victims and they were very long, but it's not true that it would have not been possible to kill all these people. It is very well documented how all the killing was done. There is no doubt that it's true.

2007-03-27 14:13:51 · answer #2 · answered by Elly 5 · 2 0

The numbers game gets played for all sorts of reasons. Reasonable people know there was a period of oppression in Germany during the 1930's culminating in a Global War errupting in 1939 in Europe and ending in 1945 along with the group of 'baddies' labled Nazi s. How many people were killed and does it truly matter how many were Jewisjh or Polish or Jehovah WItnesses or Homosexuals or, yes those horrible Liberals that American-Republicans hate so much though in Germany they were usually labled Social-Democrats or Socialist? How Many? It matters to some but the sum of all deaths was in the hundred millions including war dead.

What is truly horrible, when you truly think about it is that if one accepts the figure of 6/Six Million Jews killed (and it can be argued that many simply died of disease mistreatment starvation which some people find oddly acceptable), if one accepts the figure Six/6 million what gets ignored in the shuffle is that at least a million of them were simply 'accused' of being Jewish - - - they were simply people livinng in what were called 'Jewish Towns,' or in the case of Polish Menonites becasue of their black clothing & unshaven faces. An odd side note, Nazis frequently accept circumsion as 'proof' that someone was a Jew. Many Americans risked being beat up or killed in Germany during the thirties when gangs of youths would de-pants them; does that happen in your college (?).

Many people want to view all history as a myth. Time recedes, in the mists of time what is the prevelant mind set? Many American Republicans would have people believe that Ameria's founding fathers were Jesus-Thunkers intent on ridding the colonies of Sodomites & Liberals. Many people love German culture and feel the need to either segregate the Nazi's as an aberent creature, pooh-poohing facts & statistics is an easy way to say "you are wrong," as if the sum total of dead in a certain concentration camp in excess of the number of revealed graves has grave consequences.

Peace.....

2007-03-27 07:59:47 · answer #3 · answered by JVHawai'i 7 · 4 0

how many people must be murderd because of their race or belief before it,s called genocide? how many before we accept it as an atrocious crime?and why do we say 6 million jews and not ___ millions of people killed because they didnt fit into Hitlers New world order.gypsies homo-sexuals,circumsised europeans,catholics,and so on.
one person murderd for their race or belief should be enough to cause outrage.there is no way to lessen the crime by bouncing numbers around.And perhaps thats what it is about a people trying to assuage their guilt.
as child I had a catholic nun as a teacher who had spent 2 years in a concentration camp in poland.she said in the last year of the war, thousands of people walked down the road daily from the train stop into a fenced in compound next to where they worked.none of them carried luggage.some asked" how do they keep so many in such a small space"!? then go OH! when it dawned on them what the place was about.At the end when the camp was liberated by the russians she said that the killing had escalted horribly the last few weeks ,so much so that they were unable to keep up with the disposal of bodies and so they built tall towers of human bodies,stacked like wood.lit them on fire with petrol and there was burning all day long.
she worked in a ware house where she sorted personal items from a giant stack of suitcases ,boxes and bags.that she said never lessened in size.she said the enormity of the horror finally occured to her one day as she stood staring at a pile of glasses twice as wide as she and taller than she was ."not everyone wears glasses.maybe 1/3 or 1/2 but not everyone"! before she left that place she had seen that pile replaced twice.after liberation many of the towns people were brought into the camp and even then denied that they knew what was happening inside.and some couldnt believe even after seeing it.
of course we want to forget but should we ? if we lessen the horror in our minds and history can we prevent it next time? do we do a disservice to those who were victims?
the numbers dont matter but the lives cut short do.

2007-03-27 14:43:56 · answer #4 · answered by matowakan58 5 · 1 0

The Jews did not suffer in Germany because there was no Holocaust. Actually it was the Jews that was torturing the poor blond haired deprived Germans. Those tattoos on the Jews arms and hands that are still alive today (by the grace of God) are really there because they want to be hip.


OTHER CONSPIRACIES TO THINK ABOUT:

1. We knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor before they did. I mean come-on President Roosevelt liked the thought of our boys baking inside the Battle Ship Arizona before they died. The President was looking for a better way to get a good nights sleep.

2. America did not land on the Moon. We payed billions of dollars for the 360 foot Saturn 5 rocket so we could look at it and say wow that is a big rocket. We kept approx. 400,000 technicians, scientists and construction contractors quiet, with zero leaks to the public. The rocks that we thought that came from moon and have proved to be from the moon are really from the Pacific Ocean.

3. The Mafia whacked JFK, via the Russian connection, via the Cuban connection.... The man on the grassy knoll was a CIA agent acting on orders from Giancana from Chicago and Marcello from New Orleans, with duplicity from Castro and Kruschev....true story.

4. Aliens landed in Roswell and we transported them to Area 51 to back engineer their technology, where do you think the stealth air craft came from? Again, we kept it secret by brain washing the thousands of workers who were in on the scam.

5. The Moon we see every night is really not there along with the planets, stars as well as the Planet Killing Asteroids. Those were put there by the evil United States to toy with our minds.

6. The fossils of homo eructus, neandertals and 15 other hominids that are extinct were put there by paleotologists, archeologists, and assorted rock hounds to enhance their careers. Creationism is the only reality.

7. America is a conspiracy and is a fake country and none of us Americans really live here.

8. I was never born so this response to your question is a fake.

2007-03-28 01:13:15 · answer #5 · answered by Its not me Its u 7 · 3 0

The numbers really don't matter, either way it was a large number and a terrible thing that was done. I just wish they would quit dragging it up from the depths. Let it rest!

2007-03-27 09:09:51 · answer #6 · answered by MajorTom © 6 · 1 0

who cares? it was funny

2007-03-27 17:50:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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