Isn't the fifth amendment one of those rights you shouldn't mind giving up if you have nothing to hide?

Question

I think I've read here on YA that very justification for the Patriot Act. That applies to DOJ officials too, right? If you've got nothing to hide you don't mind if we ask a few questions, listen in on a few phone calls, or check your library account, do you?

Answer 1

it depends
bob has nothing to hide, but bob wouldnt want someone listening on his conversations just for no reason, however if a life could be saved by them listening to bob's phone call bob would let them because although bob takes his amendments seriously, a life is more important then some cia or fed man thousands of miles away who bob dont know or will ever meet listening to bob talk to somebody. iif bob was a drug dealer then yes, bob would mind. but bob aint into none of that anymore so bob dont care because bob knows what it feels like to lose someone close to you.

a lot of people will say its a invasion of privacy and **** like that, but unless you a drug dealer, terrorist,in the mob or breaking the law you got nothing to hide and in bobs opinion someone who wouldnt let a government man listen to their phone call to eliminate them as a terrorist and someone dies that death is on YOU and there would be no blaming bush or anybody and the family(s) of that/those person(s) who die wont answer to the government, not to bush, but YOU for being selfish and having a orgasm over the bill of rights.

the government already shits on the bill of rights, doesnt pay attention to the amendments and does so much **** to break them, but when a law that does challenge a amendment to a extent is purposed and passed that can SAVE LIVES everyone goes in a frenzy. what about all those times the feds put in jail journalist for digging up a little too much about the feds, what about those times police search and seize things with out probable cause or a warrant, what about when the government attempts to make it so that you can be fined when you say certain words, when they ban certain songs and people from saying things. No one does anything, no one says anything. The only reason people "care" about their constitutional rights is when Bush is involved with it. Bob dont like Bush, but bob dont like stupid asses either. Everybody needs to wake and get their heads out of their asses.

see bob agrees with that one guy directly above bob, about the judge being a asshole and taking away his rights. Thats when you want your rights to protect you from the government and to protect you from the asshole police convicting you and sending you to jail for **** that you didnt do or to even protect you if you did do it, it was to protect you from the government ruling **** like a dictatorship (if you think bush is running things like a dictatorship, bob thinks you need to go live in north korea for a couple years and learn to appreciate what you got even if the government is shitting on the bill of rights)

Answer 2

I see your point. I think the Patriot Act is wrong, because anybody could be accused of being a terrorist. People that believe the Patriot Act will only be used against terrorists are naive, and too dumb to realize this country is slowly becoming a Police state. The fact that somebody doesn't want to consent to a car search is considered probable cause to think they have something to hide. So how is that different from somebody giving up the fifth amendment right because they have nothing to hide?They have already shown how the FBI has been abusing the Patriot Act. It ought to be repealed. But I don't think people in this country have the sense to appreciate their freedom until they lose it. And they are loosing it.

Answer 3

Its no ones business even if you have nothing to hide. It is a right because its very important, just like you shouldn't have to be subjected to strip searches and other such things. Its part of innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. You should never "just give up" any right.

I wouldn't let a stranger listen in on my phone calls just as my husband doesn't and neither would my mom.
The patriot act lets anyone even being slightly, what they consider suspicious, to be labeled a "possible terrorist" and be searched.
The government already knows WAY more about you then you think though, from your SS card to State ID to medical records and more. They jsut like to classify people so they can keep trouble makers (those who speak out against them) quiet

Answer 4

Apples and oranges!!!
With the patriot act it's apply to anybody being spyed out without any prove or evidence that the person has done anything wrong or ever intends to do anything worry, or identifies themselves with individuals have had shady dealings.
Pleading the fifth means one doesn't want to testify on the grounds they might incriminate themselves or they are coving up for higher ups. An essence it admiting to wrong doing. Just not stating what the actual wrong doing would be.
IN one most people are innocent... apples
In two they are guilty of something.. oranges.

Answer 5

I take my constitutional rights very seriously.and I will not abdicate any of them.Right now I am personally be persecuted in Az. and the judge is taking away my rights by his rulings so far.That just makes me want my constitutional rights even more.When I go to trial I fully expect to be convicted as the people in Az.are VERY closed minded and could care less about individuals rights.I feel like a fish out of water in this state.NEVER GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS afforded to each and every citizen of the U.S.Isn't that what our forefathers fought for?

Answer 6

Absolutely not.

That's like saying you shouldn't mind giving up your right to free speech because you have nothing to say.

The notion that you'd give up any right is ridiculous, because you have to stand on principles. The minute you let the government start taking away your rights, whether you're hiding something or not, is when they will start infringing on freedoms that you do hold dear.

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny, when the government fears the people, there is liberty"
- Thomas Jefferson

Answer 7

For those in government, employed and paid by the people, to use it to resist the inquiry of the people is a ludicrous abuse of the 5th amendment.

It is a law that limits THEIR, the government's, police power against citizens.

For them to have tried to compel prosecutors to abuse the 5th Amendment to pursue political opponents using criminal law for which the prosecutors saw no PROBABLE CAUSE is the height of abuse of the US Constitution and their oath.

It's goddamned criminal.

Answer 8

Might as well hire a different cop to hang out in every single house in America to make sure you do nothing wrong... Sound good to you?

Answer 9

Yeah, I do mind.

Sorry, but I take my Constitutional rights very seriously, and I don't give a damn which party's in the White House.

Answer 10

That is not the goal of the Patriot Act. Those who use the Patriot Act to monitor terrorists are watching the bad guys. I am not giving up any of my rights. If I found out I was being pried into to, someone would be answering my questions about who and why.

Your "privacy" by the way, is pretty much non-existent. Almost any hacker worth the price of his computer can find out everything he wants to about you. Most of that he can do legally.