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http://www.montrealmuslimnews.net/rumor.htm Gives details of What Ahmadinajad ACTUALLY said.

2007-03-26 02:52:44 · 4 answers · asked by saleem 4 in News & Events Current Events

Did he REALLY said that ISRAEL should be wiped out of map?

2007-03-26 02:55:48 · update #1

Did he said same words or West has RECEIVED ...... some 'DESIRED' translation....

2007-03-26 05:10:25 · update #2

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Stay Fan above has a valid point, The Last Dragon less so.

Of course Ahmadinejad would not accept a different regime occupying Jerusalem IF IT WAS EXCLUSIVELY JEWISH. Now, I know Israeli Arabs can vote and there are Arab members in the Knesset. But the Constitution of Israel is based on the idea that Israel must be a Jewish state, by which is meant a state always under the control of and for the benefit of Jews.

It also states that the interests of every ethnic group in Israel should be taken into account. But this has never been adhered to in practice.

Israel is the only country in the world whose very existence is based on racist lines. There are valid historical reasons for this, but it remains the truth.

In Israel there is the concept of the "ethnographic war" which is openly and often discussed in the media. This is based on the fear that by higher birthrate the Arabs may become a majority in Israel (as they were before the wars of the late 1940s) and Israel may lose its identity as a Jewish state. This is why the right of return of Arab refugees to the areas they fled from in the 1940s is such a contentious issue, one that Israel simply will not budge on. It is also why Israel encourages continued mass immigration of as many Jews as possible into an already overcrowded country.

I am not denying the validity of the Israeli point of view, especially in light of the history of the Jewish people. I am simply pointing out what is meant by Israel being a Jewish or Zionist state, which Jews and Arabs understand well, but which is distorted in the western media into Israel being wiped off the map if it is no longer a Jewish state.

As for Last Dragon, there is a big difference between regime change and wiping a country off the map, as that would normally be taken to mean.

2007-03-28 02:42:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You are making a distinction that makes no difference.
He spoke in Persian, and this has been translated into English.
A literal translation says that the "regime now existing in Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time."
I could get all literal on you you in return, and point out that time doesn't have pages.
"The page of time" may be a normal idiom in Persian, but it isn't in English. Sure, we can understand it.
And the regime existing in Jerusalem IS Israel; are you trying to say that it isn't?
Really, the best and most natural translation into English is the one commonly used: "Israel should be wiped off the map." "Wiped off the map" is a normal idiom in English, and the sense is the same as "vanish from the page of time" in Persian.
Unless you have something else to say on the subject?

2007-03-26 10:59:03 · answer #2 · answered by The First Dragon 7 · 2 1

So are you saying that he would accept ANOTHER jewish regime occupying Jerusalem? Or a non-Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem?

Because that is the quote. "THIS regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the pages of time."

Well, it's good to know that he accepts Israel's right to exist AND their right to occupy Jerusalem so long as it is under a different regime.

2007-03-26 10:06:26 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

yes he is misquoted all the time, he has terrible translators.

2007-03-26 21:25:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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