Why is President Bush ignoring the American peoples desire to get out of Iraq?

Question

Have you ever heard of a leader of a democracy ignore the peoples wishes? Bush is the most arrogant president that we've ever had as far as I know.

Answer 1

THE WAR

Please take the time to read the essay below by Dr. Chong. It is without a doubt the most


This WAR is for REAL!
Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Tuesday, July 12, 2005.

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most
serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine
(which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who
think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start?
Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is
1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the
administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault
either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents
or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers?
In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian
population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was
also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or
you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political
reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm...

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million
holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the
Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy
about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world
- German, Christian or any others.

Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way --
their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the
peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many
peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim
leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements --
killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the
choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists.
Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There
is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting. So with
that background, now to the two major questions:

1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions. We can definitely lose
this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many
of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads,
bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far
from the truth as one can get.

What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but
rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just
wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us,
over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorists to attack us, until we were
neutered and submissive to them.

We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for
the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help them.

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier
for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong
for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed
their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be
done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and
realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists
without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and
fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know
it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we
can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?

The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed
to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the
costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning.
And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves
by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full
support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to
be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death
seriousness of this situation.

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the
terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary
Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?
This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we
have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights
temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII,
and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and
all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of
those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost
seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they
are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless,
that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It
concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the
treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We
have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war,
by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few
months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands,
cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing
with Saddam Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own
people for the same reason. They are also the same type of enemy fighters, who recently
were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.

And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing videos to all
news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought
and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not
burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading
them, but "humiliating" them.
Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense.
If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the
seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the
disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look
like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the
real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say,
this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply
means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in, and
into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL
non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but throughout the world.

We are the last bastion of defense. We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.'
That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so
good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us,
and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world!

We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country
in the world will survive if we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech,
freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone --
let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in
one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated
in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders
will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in
the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and
continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be
fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to
weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force.
Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that they
abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.
They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing
each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing
from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way
that we can lose. I hope the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation
we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about!
Do whatever you can to preserve it.

After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our
grandchildren, our country and the world.

Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the Politicians
and media of our country and the free world!

Answer 2

Obviously you don't seem to know the entire country's opinion. I'm sure you probably just watch the news and see percentages, but the question is: How many of you have been polled? I don't know of anyone who has. In this country, we have a lot of ignorance because you can't just leave in the middle of war. It would cause 3 things:
1. The newly-established (and premature) Iraqi government would be destroyed and there would be a new Communist leader.
2. Many Iraqi civilians would be killed.
3. If we leave the war, the war will come to us. They won't just stay in Iraq- people have means of transportation in the middle east, and we would be seeing alot of aircraft flying around here with bombs that aren't ours. It would open a new warfront.

Also, Democrats in the house have approved a bill including the removal of soldiers from Iraq by September 2008. If we don't get the war taken careof by then, all of that will likely happen. It's just too risky to leave at this point. You have to use critical thinking and think of the possible risks before you act. You can just make a spontaneous decision and say, "Oh, let's remove all the soliders from Iraq!" It's not that easy. Bush is doing the right thing at this point. I'm not saying we should be over there fighting, but because we are, we need to stay there until we're done.

Answer 3

Don't confuse the ranting of a few aging anti-war protesters with the majority of the American people.

As the saying goes, all politics are local. The Iraqi war affects very few Americans. The people most affected, the soldiers on the ground, are all volunteers, and knew what they were getting into when they enlisted.

Over 100 Americans die each DAY by extremely violence on our nation's highways. One month of dead = 3,000+. If protesters, the media, etc. were really concerned about human life, they might start with this slaughter and make it page one news each and everyday.

Our particular democracy picks leaders by popular vote, not by newspaper polls with an agenda to push. You may not know this, but polls are EXTREMELY sensitive to the precise wording used. The legacy media is well aware of this, and can easily slant the outcome of any poll by subtle changes to wording that frames the outcome in advance.

According to high school civics 101, the only "poll" that counts is on election day, by registered voters that cast their vote.


President Bush didn't enter the Iraqi war without Congress's authorization. Everyone had the same intelligence and uncertainties associated thereof. Our intelligence agencies have a poor record of figuring anything out ... and the Iraqi war was necessary to be sure that Saddam wasn't going to put a nuclear weapon into the Port of Baltimore. Saddam had already enriched uranium via calutrons only found after Gulf War I. That discovery had the Baltimore-Washington power axis so scared for their personal safety they were wetting their pants.

With nuclear weapons, maybe, probably, likely, etc., isn't good enough. And if it took taking Iraq apart brick by brick to be 100% sure, so be it.

Every politician that voted for the war should say, it was a tough call but we had to be sure. Iraq isn't making a nuclear bomb, and Saddam is dead, our mission is done, and we are getting out, exactly when can not be predicted.

Answer 4

We're a Republic, not a Democracy. The leaders are elected to make the decisions they think are the right one. That's exactly what Bush is doing.

The majority didn't want Clinton to go into Serbia and Bosnia either, but he did. The majority didn't want to be in Viet Nam, but we were there for 22 years, under 5 different Presidents.

Luckily, we don't have mob rule in the USA. If we did, we'd be just like Italy or any number of Latin America countries, changing governments every six months.

Answer 5

Another man or woman who best listens to part of the tale and makes up the relaxation. McCain does not desire to preserve the Iraq conflict going for one hundred years. He in no way mentioned that. He in no way implied that. It is without problems made up. He did say that there COULD BE troops in Iraq for one hundred years however he has in no way even recommended that. He simply stated the probability as soon as. I love how men and women attempt to tie Bush and McCain to grease firms however continually fail to remember that Al Gore's fortune all got here from oil. Neither Bush nor McCain desire the conflict to final one hundred years. They have each referred to as for the troops to be eliminated as quickly as viable however Bush did not desire to set a schedule with out the Iraqi enter. Now that the Iraqi's are capable to take over, the Bush management has been discussing the timetable with them. The US public voted out the "Rubberstamp Republicans" in 2006 and rather received a number of Democrats that experience endured to fund the conflict they had been supposedly in opposition to with out query. A lot of well it did.

Answer 6

I think he isn't communicating that he understands that we want out of Iraq. As President, he has information that we don't (and, I'll leave the part about the accuracy of his information...alone).

The truth is: As a country over there, we are between "a rock and a hard place." How to now abandon "rescuing" Iraq women, children, and elders (the innocents)? How, now, to keep-on murdering our military youth (the innocents)?

I think Pres. Baby Bush should be indicted for mass murder, which, I think, automatically impeaches him. So what does he do? Yup, fires people with the power to made such an historical event happen.

I remember when the Saudi Prince(s) were interviewed. Each said, "Let us handle it." My heart believed them, and given that I know that I do not know much about the history of these continuing problems, "my heart believed" they would "handle the problem." I think we erred. The US should have let them.

Why didn't we? Well...How do you impress daddy if you don't go to war?

I would really like to hear more from First Lady Laura Bush. I think she must ask her husband that same question, over and over.

Perhaps bravo, instead of confidence, rather than arrogant?

We are a nation both in mourning and in fear. What color arm bands (or wrist bands) should we wear?

You get them made and available--I'll wear one.

Answer 7

First this country is a Republic not a Democracy. Second it is only you opinion that the Americans want to surrender. Maybe they want to win and and want the bickering in washington to stop and get the job done. Seems to only one working on this is the President. The Democrats have found a way to make a profit on this. They just passed some legislation to give themselves 26 billion.

Here is a thought. Take a poll with this as the question.

What should we do in Iraq
a) Win and come home.
b) Surrender and come home.

Then make you statements.

Answer 8

Bush wasn't elected by the popular vote - in fact he was put into office by the US Supreme Court after he lost the popular vote. Why should he listen to the people who pay the taxes and demand they (Bush administration) be responsible and accountable for what they have done. The people HAVE spoken and now time must pass to get this moron out of office. His administration has been a "lame duck" administration for a long time, but he cause so much damage that it will take successive after successive presidents to fix the problems! A democracy that ignores the wishes of the people will, if uncorrected, rebel! It has happened in the past and the US is not immune to that kind of action. It is not only acceptable to question our leaders it is our RESPONSIBILITY!

Answer 9

Individual freedom is the dream of our age. It's what our leaders promise to give us, it defines how we think of ourselves and, repeatedly, we have gone to war to impose freedom around the world. But if you step back and look at what freedom actually means for us today, it's a strange and limited kind of freedom.



Politicians promised to liberate us from the old dead hand of bureaucracy, but they have created an evermore controlling system of social management, driven by targets and numbers. Governments committed to freedom of choice have presided over a rise in inequality and a dramatic collapse in social mobility. And abroad, in Iraq and Afghanistan, the attempt to enforce freedom has led to bloody mayhem and the rise of an authoritarian anti-democratic Islamism. This, in turn, has helped inspire terrorist attacks in Britain. In response, the Government has dismantled long-standing laws designed to protect our freedom.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/noise/?id=trap

Answer 10

Uh, President Truman kept people in Korea despite it being an un popular war that the American people wanted us to come home from. His poll numbers tanked because of it. So yes, I have read of such in the past.

Answer 11

Don't think he is ignoring them in planet of apes.
He's doing his best to reach out and extend a helping hands to the women and children in Iraq with living examples of punishment and destruction of human errors on the blunders and slip-ups with human errors in the creation of living human kind into mankind of intelligent design living in misery and paying a heavy price with their lives in idol worshiping the dead Mummy with skeleton of skull and bones in their own backyards in making a mess in planet of apes.
Luke 21.22-24