Are the people who look away and not stand up and cry out against terrorism as guilty as the terrorists?

Question

I had participate in demosntrations agaisnt the war, i support the right of race and religion and a world where everybody can feel useful and have their houses and cars and children in school but i am so tired of some arabs silent in the face of extreme atrocities explained just in the grounds of sects, religions , the crusades which by the way, the first ones was muslim one in the century 13 and took spain to a 300 years of ocupation.

How a bomber can detonate a bomb in a queu of people wanting to go to Mecca and simply shout up and still has complains about "the west"...

Should they resolve the problems they have first and be greatful for more than 1 thousand million arabs here in the west eating and living... I mean, i am loosing some information here... what they want then?

Answer 1

For sure CIA and MI6 has blood in their hands, the difference is that we complain, we donñt clap or turn our eyes away when dirty, pitiful and full of complex shows as made for Iran in 2004, we are no angel, but we would puke, revolt, screem and shout, stand up and wipe the goverment if in our "country of Christian pigs" as the Iranian president qualify us everyday would dare to behave like that.

In the case of Muslims they will congratulate themselves, laugh and be proud of such desgraceful behaviour, anyday, when will have no more than to agree on bombing Teheran they will say that WE are the only ones to blame not realizing that they and only them are the ones who had converted "ISLAM" in such a bad concept in our minds, cause simply i can relate it with anything good.

But i can´t defend the people of a country who agree with the kind of sectarian killing of Irak and givin weapons and explosives to them plus this other disgunting shows.

So sure, the people who agrees with all this things indeed deserve to carry the same consecuences than the terrorist themselves.

Answer 2

Easy for you to say away from all the violence sitting front of computer. You'll shut up too if you get little note at front of your door saying they'll kill your entire family if you help US force or rebel against local fighters(terrorists).

Plus, look how relationship between Iran and US got so bad over decades. Remember that US embassy thing? Iranians holding US citizens hostage. Hec, the US once even accidently shot down innocent commercial Iranian airline. Killed 200 Iranian civilians. People in middle east have very different view than you. You can't just tell them or have them flip a switch.

If it is that easy I would have solved this whole Middle East problem by now. This is such typical crap coming from Western peace activists wannabe.

Some Arabs in the US do speak out, but might not be on headlines. They're still relatively small in population. Plus, everybody think all from Middle East are dang terrorists. People come to the US seeking peace and seeking refuges. If Arabs in the states live low key, not speaking against global terrorism give them a break. They can get blown up walking to grocery store where they come from.

Terrorism is still rare occurence in the US and West. Don't let that be a reason to lose sanity.


This is what scares Arabs probably. They're alienated out in other countries and they can't go home because of some nut terrorists bombing everything in site back at home. Every where they go someone is trying to kill them or accusing them of being one of the bad guys.

Answer 3

Terrorism, it strikes fear in the hearts of sane people. Those who participate in terrorist acts are the dregs of the earth because they have lost their humanity. There is no, absolutely NO reason for terrorism. These are people who are insane serial killers who can't be reasoned with and can't be saved. I hate war. I have lost three friends to this monster Islam.

If we could talk out our problems without hurting one another like civilized people I believe we'd all have a better chance to live together. But we have to get the muslim terrorists to stop strapping on bombs to kill children and innocent people.
Note, I mentioned one group not muslims as a whole.

Can they listen? Do they have the ability to talk things out without murdering others? I wish some would.

Answer 4

Are people who look away and not stand up and cry against the CIA as guilty as Western Hegemonists? No they're not as guilty. And same goes for those you asked about in your question.

But they're yellow-skinned and disillusioned (or is it delusional?) if they make excuses for bombers who blow themselves in a crowded market with women and children. But have you shouted out against 'smart' bombs that blow women/children in their sleep, with intelligence knowing that there are indeed civillians in the mud house?

Muslims understand and sympathize with the plight, frustration and abandonment of many poor non-Gulf Arab countries and heavy handed-ness of political powers they have no control of in their own countries and those overseas mainly in the Security Council (has anyone noticed that it's one of the most undemocratic setup, there is, with only one member able to veto an entire bill, and the countries not representing the true demographic in religion and nationalities amongst the top permanent 7??).

Unfortunately disgruntled people will always point to conspiracy theories and out of desperation take the most drastic action, where common sense could have ruled the day instead. What's sad is educated Muslims who should know better are somehow so angry about their marginalization they'll accept these lengths (I could not believe this British Muslim lawyer believed those 7/7 bombers were martyrs).

Sadly you know that's not a fair question made, but your anger I understand. Had you been in a more desperate situation perhaps you may have been pushed over the top. But luckily your country domestically is good enough not to allow that. Cannot be said about those other countries where these guys are planted, whose governments are supported by outside interests (Hosni Mubarak in Egypt with so much financial aid, yet no progress in their major cities, Uzbekistan(or Ukraine?) where young men are abducted/killed with gross human rights violations but believe it or not the US supports them. Chechnya, rich with oil reserves, is overlooked with Russian violations...and these guys aren't even the populations who've gone crazy offshores yet. The main news example is Hamas who were democratically elected only to have aid strangled and an already pathetic nation is well, made more pathetic).

The knife cuts in two ways. Atrocities are being caused left and right. But right now....these crazy nutcase bombers have held my beliefs hostage and sadly I see people swaying their way. It is indeed scary.

Edit:
greyLady, I understand you were particularly pointing to one group of crazy radical terrorist Muslims...however you still called the religion 'monster' in the previous paragraph of the last line. There is nothing in Islam that allows these guys to do what they're doing, period. I hope you understand that. There are so many splinter groups, you have to see it through the lens of a microscope to understand why these religiol/political groups exist. I'm sorry about ur friends. Hope the killers get what they deserve. Stay strong.

Answer 5

I am Not quite sure what you are asking here ;

I believe those who turn a blind eye, to the actions of terrorists, are as guilty,
as the mind set, that allows these monsters, to carry out this bullying tactics .

To "sit on your hands ", look away and do nothing , when terrorism is being carried out .
is a wicked thing .
It happened, all too often in WW2

The people who allowed the atrocities, to happen
( by minding their own business ) ,
have blood on their hands ,
Almost as if, they had committed the genocide them selves .

God will judge them, every last one , in good time ,

>^,,^<
.

Answer 6

Good points. unfortunately, when Arab schools teach sixth-grade age children that Jews drink Arab blood, and when Iran makes films showing Jews stealing Iranian children's brown eyes in order to swap Jewish children's blue eyes, and when Egypt (which has a twenty-nine-tear-long peace treaty with Israel) can show a film stating the "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion", one of the most exposed hoaxes in history, to be true, then the Arabs have a long way to go before they will begin to regard Jews and other "infidels" as people to love instead of hate.

Answer 7

totally agree with you mate..

the problem is muslims always have an excuse for terrorism by muslims... no point talking to them as they work out who is muslim first and then jump to their support. It's a lost argument. Their religion has blinded them from right and wrong.

Even most christians do not support war, crusades etc. And not all jews are zionists.

Answer 8

It's a mad world that allows free thinking people to put up with such shite, integration, acceptance and understanding is the only way forward but sadly certain religions have extreme branches that cause problems for every one

Answer 9

i have read that Muslims wish to make the whole world Muslim, they go to country's, take over complete areas, keep themselves to themselves, then moan that they are victimised, well i was under the impression that they had a tolerant religion there is nothing tolerant about blowing people up.
if people hide those who bomb people yes they are as guilty.

Answer 10

Edmund Burke is often attributed with the quotation,""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke

I suppose that you believe "moderate Muslims" should stand up and protest against what the "extremist/radicals" do. There are rules of engagement for "jihad fee sybil Allah" listed in the Qur'an. Those who follow those rules and participate in the obligatory jihad are "mujahid (pl. mujahideen)" and those who do not follow the rules are "muharib (pl. muharibun).

So who is the "moderate Muslim" who should protest against the terrorists? Certainly not all Muslims blow up things, yet "jihad in the cause of Allah" "jihad fee sybil Allah" is "fard ayn" "compulsory duty" for all Muslims. Why? There are rules from the Quran for combattive jihad.

The observant Muslim does not have to blow up things to participate in and support jihad. There there are those "moderate Muslims" who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin Qur'an 4:76, 8:74, 49:15) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)

Qur'an Surah Al-Anfãl (8):39
So fight them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)" ...

Qur'an [Surah al-Hujurat (49):15]
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah( jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their wealth and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

You may understand more of the hows and whys if you read this:
The 39 principles of Jihad as described by Mohhamad Bin Ahmad Al-Salem translated from Al-faroq website by Col Jonathan D. Halevi here is a link:
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/var/39p_e.htm
And this:
http://english.nctb.nl/publications/reports/aivd/