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Okay, after a serious and intense process of contemplation I've come to a few conclusions:

a) If we live in a world of free will, there is no God. Free will + actions = accountability for these actions. Therefore if God DID commit the act of creating us, he'd be responsible for us and, respectively, our actions; uplifting all accountability we would otherwise have for said actions. This is a complete objection and contradiction any purpose/meaning we uphold for ourselves, creating a world of nihilism. Thus, God can't exist in such a world.

b) A world of fate requires a God to sustain its structure. A deterministic perception of reality would call for all causes and their respected effects to be apart of a long, on-going chain of such causes and effects, leading all the way back to one initial cause: God.

So I ask you, which paradigm do you adhere to: a or b?

2007-03-24 17:20:51 · 7 answers · asked by Smokey 2 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

7 answers

Both of your paradigms are flawed.

Whether or not there is free will and whether or not there is a god are two separate questions not dependent on one another. No free will and no God is a perfectly plausible possibility. Many would like to believe free will gives a cosmic accountability, with a God who judges your decisions after you die.

A world of fate doesn't require anything to maintain itself. A world of fate would unfold deterministically, entropy would do its job, destroying everything over time, and in the end the universe will be a cold, dead place with no structure at all.

Have a nice day!

2007-03-24 18:36:24 · answer #1 · answered by Brian 2 · 0 0

Hypothetically (as many ancient traditions claim) If everything is god (like waves on an ocean, with the word "god" being defined very loosely) then there is nothing "outside" of the system, and free will and determinism become distinguishable only by the cosmological level from which one speaks. To stay within the simile, any given waves actions are completely determined, but the water as a whole is free.

2007-03-24 18:51:35 · answer #2 · answered by neil s 7 · 0 0

Who are you to decide that A or B is all there is, Are you so blessed as to have figured it all out for us and break it down so that us little people could try and understand it...... There is so much more to the question of fate vs free will then you have put forth...... your conclusions are too complicated and too simple all at the same time..... I think great minds everywhere have considered this question thru the ages, there are no absolutes,

2007-03-24 20:26:46 · answer #3 · answered by She Said 4 · 0 0

Both. You have free will and there's a God who grants it to you.

It's a mystery you can't work out like a maths problem.

2007-03-24 17:34:19 · answer #4 · answered by Amelie 6 · 0 0

You seemed hung up on the "biblical god", check out the god of the Gnostics, it makes more sense...

2007-03-24 17:51:08 · answer #5 · answered by Jedi Baptist 4 · 0 0

Where did the universe come from?

2007-03-24 17:29:53 · answer #6 · answered by Joe D 1 · 0 0

hey capone!!!

2007-03-24 17:23:18 · answer #7 · answered by jojo 5 · 0 0

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