It's official... Democrats don't support our troops. You agree?

Question

I am completely amazed that they really did it. I don't remember anyone doing such things during Vietnam. How can they do this? Why didn't they ask the troops what they thought first? We see forums all over that our troops are joined to and very few of them feel this way. Is this what it is all about... get elected at ALL costs? And to make this terribly disgusting, they put tons of Pork Barrel in this bill.

Spinach growers got $25 million. The shrimp industry received $120 million. Federal support for peanut storage, due to expire after 2006, was extended for one more year at a cost of $74 million. Shellfish producers were compensated $5 million for their losses to a disease known as viral hemorrhagic septicemia.

“Spinach, shrimp, peanuts and shellfish?” said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. “That’s not a war funding bill, that’s the salad bar at Denny’s.”

$50 million item to clean up asbestos at the U.S. Capitol’s special power plant.

The Democrats had to "buy" the votes. Shameful and the Senate bill is suppose to be as bad with the Pork Barrel. This is one of the biggest mistakes we ever made was allowing the Democrats to take control again. They are doing EXACTLY what they did in the past that caused us to kick them out. That good ole boy politics of greasing everyone's hand.

This money isn't going to the war, to Katrina victims or homeland security. This is a payoff sweet and simple.

All their whining how money was being wasted with homeland security, 9/11, the war and Katrina as though it was pork instead of a need and now we see the truth.

A bipartisan watchdog group, 1 million members strong now has recorded this wasteful spending. Take a look and see how your congressman is doing. And tell him you are sick and tired of the good ole boy politics of the past. Fix the war without stealing tax dollars.

Fix the war without stealing tax dollars and pretending you are doing something else!

Don't be dumb... see it for yourself and then decide if the News Media is telling you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It's time for YOU to decide!

http://www.cagw.org/site/VoteCenter?page=congScorecard&congress=109&location=H&lcmd=score-asc&lcmd_cf=

Be sure to click on the small up and down arrow of the "score" to sort it so you can see who the "real" Pork Barrel spenders are.

If these additional pork items are so good they can be passed on a bill of their own. They can't, so they include in on our war effort.

Like I said, click on the up/down arrow for the "score" to see who abuses this the most. They have one hand in your pocket and their other hand patting you on the back telling you they understand your needs.

Answer 1

American military personnel OVERWHELMINGLY vote Republican, and have for decades. The lack of personal responsibility and accountability, inability to cope with violence, and the continual questioning of authority and traditions that hallmarks the left-wing is simply incompatible with military service.

With that in mind, there is no love lost between Democrats and the military (as a whole, there are some exceptions.) It's simply politically correct to support the troops these days. If this was the 1960's, Democrats (politicians and voters) would be lined up to forsake and spit on the troops. It would be just like Vietnam all over again.

The only thing that keeps Democrats from showing their true colors is because they want to be re-elected. It's as simple as that. They support the troops through gritted teeth.

Answer 2

Wow, you've definitely twisted it around. Why dont you try giving people a real link to whats in there. Here it is:

http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10570

The $120 million you're yelling about is for Katrina affected shrimping and fishing industries. So you're against helping people that lost their businesses in Katrina? nice.

$400 million of "pork" went to rural schools. So you're against education too? strike two.

$500 million, the biggest pork item, went to emergency wildfire suppresion for the US Forest Service. And so finally you have a problem with fighting the rampant forest fires that occur every summer in our national parks? strike three.

I personally think all three of those things are good uses of my tax dollars, that actually HELP the people in THIS country, unlike the $103 billion in the bill that is being shipped over to Iraq and Afghanistan.

you obviously have just listened to the propoganda and drank the Kool-aid, like most people on here, instead of looking into it deeper.

You are leaving out the critical fact that $103 billion of the bill is going to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And finally, to close, this bill will never be made law anyway, so relax. The senate wont be able to pass it, and even if so, Bush will veto, and the democrats do not have the necessary majority to override the veto.

SO, what will happen will be a even more porked up version, as the vote-buying gets more intense as an effort to create a bill that will pass gets more frantic.

I GUARANTEE that the final version of this spending bill that makes it through will have MORE pork in it to appease the Republicans.

And i also want to add i am a military veteran, and my career now is working with the Army on a daily basis supporting them in the efforts over there, so dont anyone DARE question my patriotism. That does not mean i cant be enlightened and look at rational facts, instead of trying to twist them around.

Edit: Some pork is bad, some is good. No i dont agree with $50 million for asbestos mitigation, but i'm willing to take the good with the bad. You cant make all the people happy all the time, and really you can only make some of the people happy some of the time.

And by the way, the numbers under the score section...again you're twisting. They only represent voting WITH the CAGW opinions. You have to understand that in the Republican controlled congress, pretty much all of the bills that were passed were Republican sponsored bills, that yes, that CAGW approved of, but OF COURSE the Democrats voted against them, they were Republican bills. so OF COURSE they're scores are low versus republicans voting with republican bills the whole year. Do you not see how that works?

Answer 3

Read the whole truth:
http://www.house.gov/list/press/ar01_berry/IraqFundingBillPassesApprops.html
Congress appropriated MORE money for the military than Bush asked for. Yes, they added some pork left over from the 109th congress that they never quite got around to taking care of. Even deducting the pork, the military got MORE than Bush asked for.

There are also some stipulations in the bill that would bring our troops out of Iraq in a YEAR AND A HALF if Iraq does not meet their benchmarks within that time-frame. This puts pressure on Iraq to get it together.

Nancy Pelosi has NEVER said she would cut off funding for the war. In fact, she said they will NOT cut off funding for the military. She said to do so would be wrong. There are a few who do want to cut the funds and bring home the military now but these people are few and far between.

Adding pork to these bills is "normal procedure". Look up last year's.

Answer 4

in basic terms some human beings are conscious approximately all of the climate needed to make a valid judgment in this action. so a techniques as sending them over there with out ideal kit, i think of it is yet another judgment call. extra/extra ideal kit may well be valuable, yet extra effective, may well be a united us of a sending them over there telling them to get the activity achieved, and then come residing house. all of the whining approximately why we are there and the place the WMD's in basic terms invigorates the enemies to artwork extra durable. approximately 7 or 8 hundred years in the past William Wallace tried to combat a war and not applying a united us of a at the back of him. It purely isn't as effective. Leaving the battlefield in the previous the war is won, will in basic terms flow the battlefield somplace else. Time for the armchair quarterbacks to take a seat and enable the war initiate.

Answer 5

No, I do not agree! In fact the democrats do support our troops. It is the war in Iraq they do not support. Every Democrat is more than willing to ensure that the troops have every chance to stay alive including appropriation for protective equipment.

They want to bring our tropps home who are being forced to fight in a "no win" civil war. They also now realize that the war was begun under false pretenses and that the lives being sacraficed are in the absolute worst of tragic losses.

I am a 20 year military vet. I retired in 1995 and fully agree that the congress must at least try to prevent any more escalation of this war.

you on the other hand have no experience, have NEVER been in the middle of any conflict where you life may be in danger from an armed enemy and have no authority to speak for any member of the military.,

Answer 6

I for one am completely dismayed and perturbed (to say the least) with the Democratic Party. If they really truly supported our troops, I agree, they would not have stooped to the level of "buying" votes. Isn't that supposed to be illegal? Our troops need our suport, no matter what the people in DC do or think.

Answer 7

Of course they don't support the troops, look at the Democratic leaders, and that will give you an idea of how the dem's HATE the military.
John Kerry--a mock "war-veteran" of VietNam, the only known person to have ever brought a typewriter to the country in war time...which he then used to falsify documents for his undeserved 3 purple hearts and to leave VietNam after only 89 days in coutry, the shortest tour for any soldier that was not killed, or dis-figured because of the war. Then became an Anti-war leader in association with a group known as "The Black Panthers," Not to mention that he is also one of only 3 Americans listed in THE VIETNAM MUSEUM in VietNam as A War HERO by the North Vietnemese. A TRUE TRATOR TO THIS COUNTRY.
Bill Clinton--Demorilized the entire country, defunded the military, by presidential order had military cut-backs in equipment, personnel, medical health for VETERANS by cutting the VA budget by 45% durring his precidency, having soldiers killed in BOSNIA and NEVER REQUESTIING THE BODIES OF SOLDIERS THAT DIED TO BE RETURNED, etc. A TRATOIR TO THE COUNTRY, and was even empeached for his debacle for his lack of respect for the law and his own office all for a ******* from an intern. Also, remeber this is the president that told 4 yes 4 other countrys to let Bin Laden go, after the first bombings of the World Trade Centers. Also had more embessy bombings than any other president in history, without ever doing anything about it. Also some Marine Barracks bombed, and nothing from him. Oh, wait, while he was on trial for his empeachment he did send in one cruise missle to destroy an asprin factory in IRAQ, claiming "we have destroy'd a chemical weapons plant" even proving that he the leader of the DEMOCRATIC RAT PARTY thought that Saddam had "Chemical Weapons". Or was that to draw attention away from him getting his blowjobs???
Hillary Clinton, who has never once took a stand on anything without changing her mind since she became a senator (take a look at her voting record as a senetor), NEVER WENT TO MEET ANY TROOPS, etc. and actually still is married to a guy who has admitted to cheating on her...what a dumb broad she truelly is.
Al Gore, who is so busy telling everyone else how they should live, and will never live the same. HE CREATES MORE TOXINS IN ONE OF HIS HOMES IN A MONTH THEN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CREATES IN A YEAR, but wants everyone to look the other way while he creates more pollution. Also, take a look at his past, he is the one who has made the laughible claims of "creating the internet", which was the public joke of the century, even his own party was making fun of his stupidity.
Nancy Polosi---the load mouth lier who when was running demanded that the government stop government waste within the government, then DEMANDING a LARGER PLANE for her to fly in from D.C. to Califonia and back....was only given a 10 seat plane, and wants atleast 30 seats per plane. Also voted against every mil;itary spending bill before she was elected to house speaker, and has yet to vote for ONE bill to support the troops without critizing the bill first.
Yep, when you take a look at the leaders, you know what the whole party is about; blowjobs, loud political speaches, trying to redefine the english language and the word is, "standing by your man" when he lies and cheats, bigger planes, more polution, and oh---against asprin. Supporting the troops would mean that they would have to be HONEST, LOYAL, ACCOUNTIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS, RESPONSIBLE, and have everything they do examined and run trough congressional hearings.....too much work for them. They are too busy trying to cover up the next Monica's, just easier to pay off everyone they can.

Answer 8

That's funny. I'm a democrat and I went to that damn war, instead of hiding behind a computer screen.

Answer 9

Of course they don't support our troops. Everything they say is bad about them.

The Republicans were supposed to be so corrupt yet the dems don't mind on bit bribing to get votes.

That's OK, Pres. Bush said he will veto this bill. I just pray he keeps his word

Answer 10

If I were a soldier or marine facing endless tours among people who hate me and and are trying to blow me to bits I'd be a lot happier with the democrats than a president that has failed every single challenge presented to him. You neo-cons are slogan mongers out of touch with reality.