A male friend of mine is gay and he makes a lot of gay jokes. He also likes to "out" people. He says he's kidding but I find it a little digusting and immature. He justifies it mainly by saying "I'm gay so I'm allowed to make gay jokes". These are jokes that would offend people if it were coming from a straight guy and would be looked at as homophobic in a way. This is why I still think he should say things like that. Who's side are you on and why?
2007-03-24
13:53:48
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Society & Culture
➔ Cultures & Groups
➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Very mixed responses..
2007-03-24
14:05:12 ·
update #1
I should add when he "outs" someone he isn't exactly sure, infact he is going by plain stereotypical judgement (which I do find dangerous) and that when he does it it's in one of his jokes.
2007-03-24
14:07:16 ·
update #2
Fatty and Chubby (who I am 99% sure are the same person since they ANSWER THEIR OWN QUESTIONS) re-read the question. I didn't make the gay insults, he did.
2007-03-24
16:11:24 ·
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Sure, why not? part of the fun of belonging to a minority group is that you get to make fun of them. He's only making fun of himself, and he's probably trying to make it easier for you guys to join in on the fun, and to make it less awkward in case someone else slips up and tells one. If it bothers you, tell him, but I think its harmless. I'm french, irish and german, and I mock them all ruthlessly. Its part of the fun.
2007-03-24 14:00:11
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answered by Anonymous
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Its funny that I encountered this question on here because I was thinking about it this morning. I'm gay and I'm guilty of making guilty of making gay jokes all the time. Sometimes its to make light of something that has been difficult for me to accept, sometimes as an icebreaker when I sense someone doesnt know how to react to me being gay, and if I'm depressed its sometimes out of self-resentment. Although the reason is a bad one (no one should hate themselves or resent something beyond their control), I feel the first two are acceptable. In addition, my friends, especially my straight guy friends, joke with me about being gay. Its a way of showing that they are ok with it. For example, I was telling my one friend that my supervisor at work asked me if I had ever considered joining the military after college. When I told my friend, he said next my supervisor will ask me if I ever considered swimming in the shark infested waters of Australia trying to get rid of one gay man at a time. Another one of my friends said once, "my GOD Paul you must have so much estrogen, what do you *** pink?" Sometimes the jokes are more vulgar, but its never meant maliciously. When push comes to shove, these guys are also the first ones to give me relationship advice, bail me out of a bad situation (like once taking me home from a party that had a guy who was a major gay basher), and being there with things get rough. So, it isnt really the jokes that matter its your gay friend's feelings that motivate the joke that count. if he is going through self rejection, then that's a problem, but if the jokes are meant to be ligt-hearted its ok.
2007-03-24 16:44:49
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answered by Paul 6
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No. Absolutely not. He is being immature. 'Outing people' is dangerous. Not all people wish to be. They may be working their way through some difficult times in their lives and it's no one's business, gay or straight, when or if they decide to come out. There is no justification for stupidity. Your friend is wrong, plain and simple. If you are his friend, you need to tell him so. Each and every human being has a distinct right to their own privacy. He should respect that and keep his comments to himself.
2007-03-24 14:02:05
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answered by teacupn 6
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Since you say that your friends jokes would be looked at as homophobic and that he also likes to out people, it is not OK.
Your friend sounds like someone who doesn't like himself very much and likes to put down others to make himself feel better about himself.
The only time outing is acceptable is if someone is a public figure who is opposed to gay rights, otherwise it is a personal decision if someone is out or not and they should not be outed.
2007-03-24 14:49:01
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answered by χριστοφορος ▽ 7
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Free country, he can say what he wants. I have to listen to jokes about my religion and nobody thinks that's not PC. I'm not offended unless it's just downright abusive or hateful. Mostly, I can laugh about it. People should try and develop a sense of humor about themselves. It would really help. Having to tiptoe around someone is kinda hard. Unless your intent is cruel, a joke can lighten a mood.
Outing someone against their will is wrong, just like telling any secret someone entrusted to you.
2007-03-24 13:59:41
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answered by pookiemct07 5
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I know a straight person who makes gay jokes, and I know gay people who make gay jokes. it could be offending to other gay people, depending on the person.
2007-03-24 14:08:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Well i dont know because I know blondes blond jokes, so it might be okay. But if your gay and your makin gay jokes your actually makin fun of yourself. But it might be alright. Like me for instance, i'm a boy and I make boy jokes. So I really dont think as it is personal.
2007-03-24 14:50:38
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answered by Chubby. 2
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I think it's fine to tell gay jokes, no matter whether you're straight or gay. People need to lighten up, and realize that just because you tell gay jokes, does not make you homophobic.
Outing people, however, is just wrong.
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2007-03-24 13:58:27
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answered by Anonymous
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If the jokes don't offend you then I don't see why not. Just watch telling them around other gays that may not be as comfortable as you or don't know that you are gay.
2007-03-24 13:56:55
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answered by kaiyas_mom07 2
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Your friend is either very young and stupid, or just stupid. His insecurities are screaming. He is not being funny, is putting himself down, not other gays, and as for his 'outing," he is going to end up on the short end of a stick. If someone wants to be out, they can do it themselves. YOU encourage this by listening or being a "friend" to him. These kinds of people are really no one's friends. They are self centered, frightened little people that are a pain to be around. Good luck
2007-03-24 14:02:37
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answered by Anonymous
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