Do you think the EU is REALLY a European "Union" or is it merely the German-French alliance??

Question

Seems like the Germans and French make all the decisions and the rest of the "Union" has to sit back and take it.

Answer 1

its the biggest lot of fcuking crap ever and the biggest gravy train ever

Craig your an idiot or your that spineless fcucker tony Blair

rebel you go, goodbye, fact not once has any accountant ratified their accounts because of corruption ( which they say is getting better so that's OK ) etc etc. speaks for itself really. so if you want to give money away. go join them and let us get a vote to get out you wont be missed

yes gary dav you put it very well

Answer 2

Being german, it´s quite interesting for me to hear that some people in Britain think, that we line up with the french. I would never have thoght this. I rather had the idea, that, 10 or 20 years ago, Germany and France pushed the rest of the Union to go forward, but that this doesn´t work already for quite a long time. Actually, I have the impression that France and Germany have diferent interests and that neither Germany nor France want to give in, so that we block the whole Union. Britain, on the other hand, has (seen from here) a sort of squizofrenic attitude towards the Union - on the one hand they want to be part of it, but on the other hand they use their participation to hinder everybody the best they can from developing - I hope, this doesn´t offend you... :-)
Anyways: Europe NEVER had a development so peacefully as we´ve seen it the last 50 years - so peacefully that we already forgot what a good thing our Union is.
@ gary: Gee, hope you know that quite nasty people used the slogan "Wake up, ..." (if you do not know, just a hint: They lived here in Germany abot 70 years ago...)

Answer 3

Yes, it is REALLY a German/French Alliance!! Europe's gruesome twosome, Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schröder,(when he was Chancellor) locked their countries into an even tighter embrace with plans to share sovereignty in foreign, defence, social and economic policy. Europe is faced with a threat that goes beyond nauseating publicity stunts: A Franco-German alliance that hopes to dominate the EU as it expands eastward.
A Franco-German alliance, it is hoped, will see off the short term threat to the constitution posed by the new members, while creating a 'core' of states determined to pool sovereignty in the long-term. France's foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin, is quoted in the Guardian as saying that merging many of the two nations' offices was "the only historic gamble that we cannot lose."
There are even suggestions that Germany might share France's permanent seat on the United Nations' Security Council.!!! We "sit back and take it",at our peril !!!!

Answer 4

It's all about money. The next war is will be one of economics and not actual hand to fist fighting.

The big question is, how long will the Euro hold together before the member states begin to pull apart?

The EU is said to be the largest trading block in the world but it's opening the doors to a flood of people who are looking for monetary gain, which I don't blame them, but I don't think they want to find the pot at the end of the rainbow by working.

Answer 5

It's the Franco-German Empire, alright. The Kinnocks and the Mandelsons get their little dachas and their fat pay packets, sign away our rights and our hard-won (by Maggie) rebate, while the EU's auditors refuse to sign off the books for either the seventh or eleventh year running (if it were a PLC they would have shut down for investigation within three years). Eurocrats are legally protected from indictment for any charge whilst i Brussels.
Britain's beef is banned, then, when given the all-clear by the EU, the French still wouldn't let it into their country. The EU slaps on a fine of thousands per day; France refuses to pay; the EU relents and France gets away with it.
In the Falklands War of 1982 the French and Germans both aid the Argentinians by either setting up anti-aircraft guns on the islands (Germans) or, after promising they wouldn't, giving the formula for launching Exocet missiles from aircraft the selfsame day(French). It was the US, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and even South Africans who sided with us.
Last year, the EU decided to negotiate with Russia as a bloc in order to obtain gas from Russia: then Germany signs her own deal! We're being taken for fools, people, and you cossetted, US-ophobe Guardianistas refuse to see it. WAKE UP BRITAIN!!!
Edit: For Karl9999:
The phrase "Wake up" was, and is, used by many from all parts of the political divide. after all, a certain Mr Churchill used it when warning about a jumped-up little corporal in charge of Germany. And the 50 years of peace owes much more to NATO, and a fear of the USSR, than to a corrupt, meddlesome, Soviet-like monolithic political entity staffed by the also-rans of the member states.
It's no accident that the UK has seen the destruction of our fishing grounds -- once the best-kept in Northern Europe -- and watched our farms go into financial meltdown. Another fact about fishing is when the EU was given rights to fish in an area off Africa (whose people existed mainly on a diet of fish), the EU sucked it dry. The indigenous people of that land now subsist on the scraps they can get. The EU is environmentally responsible and the US ain't? That's a laugh!Norway stayed out of the EU, and is now richer per capita than any member state.

Answer 6

those who oppose the EU are either Torrie's or people that think that power should be kept more at home.
the EU is made up of member states, not just Germany and France. All the member states VOTE... te EU has done some brilliant thing for Europe. OK some of their decisions are daft.... and some of their powers shouldn't be but... its still a good union to be part of - well for the most part.

Answer 7

Stereotypes, stereotypes! You're probably forgetting the French voted against the constitution thus giving Blair an easy cop-out from having a referendum here. I do, think, however, that it is becoming too large and if ever Turkey were to be admitted, you may as well kiss it all goodbye.

Answer 8

Both Nations are only there because of American Soldiers. Yet they forget so quickly. Even the Frenchman who owns Target won't let American Marines put up a " Toy's For Tot's " booth for Christmas. This same guy is a very close friend of President Chirac !! God Bless America !!

Answer 9

No, i totally disagree with you. Though, EU really needs Britain so to become actually very strong, but the Government of UK has chosen to become the spy of the US in EU.

Answer 10

Members of the european union benefit greatly from the organisation. the alliance idea is just tory bulls**t